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28 April 2007 @ 02:31 am
Hello all!  I am 20 years old and new to using menstrual cups and this is my first cycle using the Divacup.  The first two days have been good, I can put it in ok and leave it there for 10 hours and it doesn't leak and it doesn't ride up.  My only problem is getting it out comfortably!  I can fold it quite small with the punch down fold and get it in fine without it hurting, but when I try to take it out it hurts!!  It's like the only way I can get it out is just breaking the seal and kind of pulling the whole darn cup out, full diameter and all (not good).  I am having major trouble "folding" it while taking it out.  Is there any way to take it out so it is smaller like when you're putting it in?  Should I switch to a different cup?  It seems to be sort of tearing things up a bit down there when it has to come out (ouch!).  I don't want to stop using it because it's causing some tearing of the tissue down there (hymen wise) which I definitely dont like (ow...) I'm kind of scared to keep trying.
Mollyzapthatmonster on April 28th, 2007 06:35 am (UTC)
You'll probably have that problem with any of the cups. What you can do is get some lube, lie down, and masturbate to loosen things up before gently stretching yourself. Do this regularly and after a while you shouldn't have too much trouble. Press your finger back towards your tailbone to stretch, and then try and fit two fingers, then three, etc.
sra8 on April 28th, 2007 06:37 am (UTC)
Is there any trick to folding smaller before taking it out or do you just sort of have to grit your teeth and pull the whole diameter of the cup out?
Foxishdragonsong on April 28th, 2007 06:44 am (UTC)
I usually bear down to push the cup down, along with some gentle pulling on the base. When the cup gets far enough down that I can hook a finger around the rim, I sort of flatten it against itself and grab the rim with my fingers so that it stays folded like () instead of ( ). Then I tilt the cup so that the narrow edge slides out first.

Much less painful once you get the hang of it. Good luck!
trina107 on April 28th, 2007 09:55 pm (UTC)
I usually insert w/ a c-fold, and when I'm removing it I redo the C-fold, less painful for me that way and still doesn't cause spilling unless it is on a VERY heavy day
hermeherme on April 28th, 2007 06:50 am (UTC)
i don't think there's a way to FOLD it before you pull it out, but you can squish the sides together so it's flatter... like dragonsong said, it ends up being more like a U than an O, but it's still bigger than when you put it in.

masturbating before gently stretching yourself might be a good idea, but masturbating before cup removal definitely is NOT... at least in my experience. when i couldn't reach far enough in to grab the stem to get the cup out my friends suggested (and i thought it was a good idea) that i masturbate, to relax, loosen and lubricate myself. afterwards i still couldn't get it out, and a while later i remembered that when women are turned on their vaginal canals lengthen... so i was probably causing the cup to go even further up me than it had been before!
sra8 on April 28th, 2007 06:56 am (UTC)
That's definitely not good! I guess I will try smooshing it down more? I think my problem is mostly maybe a bit of freaking out while trying to remove too. I just feel that urgency when it gets partially out that it needs to get out right then because I'm afraid of hurting myself. I get a bit frustrated with a finger up there fishing around trying to break the seal. It seems like just pinching the base like the instructions say doesn't do enough to break that seal.
Sarasarasnee on April 28th, 2007 09:29 am (UTC)
Relaxing is a HUGE key to a comfy removal. :)
sra8 on April 28th, 2007 06:58 am (UTC)
By the way, which cups do you use? Do you think there's a difference in ease of removal/flexibility when removing in different cups?
Katyourstreets on April 28th, 2007 08:04 am (UTC)
I TOTALLY know what you're talking about - it's fine until the rim is almost out, and then it's like a ring of fire on your perineum? To combat that, I take mine out like this: I slide one finger up the side of the cup, and put pressure on it - pulling it to the side and also breaking the suction. Once the suction is broken, I slide my thumb up the other side of the cup, and move the pressure from the middle of the cup to the edges, which folds it a little. This usually does the trick, though if I get lazy and bypass it... OUCH.

Good luck.
Katyourstreets on April 28th, 2007 08:06 am (UTC)
As for your other questions - I use the model 1 Diva. I think that, since it's very soft clear silicone, it's probably on the softer/more flexible end. I don't think there's much difference in cup sizes, though - some are shorter, but wider, some are wider but shorter. They're all... fairly large.
Ashatenlegspider on April 29th, 2007 09:03 am (UTC)
I think people have said that the Diva is the firmest cup. Could be misremembering, though.
suusjeuh on April 28th, 2007 08:16 am (UTC)
I can squash it with 2 to 3 fingers. Just slide your fingers a little higher up and push fingers together with cup in between. Then remove. But I probably have less issues because I'm no virgin.

I now have the diva size 1, the lunette and the mooncup UK size B. The diva is definetly the smallest because the lunette is HUGE and the mooncup has a very 'stiff' rim.
daydreamer1c619daydreamer1c619 on April 28th, 2007 04:36 pm (UTC)
i think a key to easy removal is to remove over the toilet or shower (actually i dont know why you wouldnt be in one of those two places? but anways....) and don't worry if you spill! eventually you'll get good at it so you won't spill (unless the cup is super full) but for the first few cycles, spill away.

like others have said, bear down and pull the cup down so the bottom is sticking out, then use a finger to break the seal and fold it into a U or C shape (i think i use three fingers... a finger and my thumb to hold it and pull it down and another finger to squish it in) then pull it out gently on an angle while keeping it folded into that C/U fold.

the masturbating/stretching thing... not necessary in my opinion. i'm a virgin that does not "stretch herself" and have done just fine.
Ashatenlegspider on April 29th, 2007 09:07 am (UTC)
If folding the cup doesn't work for you, you could try walking it out like I do. When it gets to the point where pulling down is uncomfortable, I move one side down followed by the other. It especially helps with the very last bit.
flybane on May 1st, 2007 03:08 am (UTC)
I have the exact same issue. I'm afraid a little tearing was inevitable, but as some people mentioned, maneuvering into a c-fold is very helpful. Only problem is, it's hard to get anything done unless you can get two fingers in. Basically I pinch the cup so that the end is out, then use thumb, index, and middle fingers to squeeze it into a C-fold, while using the other hand to keep the rim squeezed together as it comes out. Someone here also told me to try tilting it as it comes out - I think for me it helps if I get the front out first, or it might be the other way around. It can help to reduce the cross-section that has to come out. I haven't done the masturbating thing for removal, but it helps me for insertion.