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ever so slightly obsessed
29 November 2005 @ 01:07 pm
hi, apologies for the mild irrelevance :/

But I'd like to draw your attention (particularly elettaria! you there?) to the poll posted a while ago and the comments it generated. Unfortunately this was while LJ was being spacky and not sending email notifications.

But yep, I'd love more comments/feedback please! and then we can have the poll to end all polls.

http://www.livejournal.com/community/menstrual_cups/392108.html?nc=13

The subject of menorrhagia is actually bothering me a little. About 50% of us seem to fit the technical definition, yet only a maximum of 10% have the symptoms. Is the official medical figure (80 ml or more) wrong? I'd also be curious about why the results were so unlike the figures quoted in the websites I linked to - We seem to bleed a lot more. Did the doctors who decided on that figure get it wrong? Was the poll just crap? Are we perhaps not very representative? if you bled less than 30ml, I guess you really wouldn't need to use a cup... etc etc.

Talk to me :)
 
Goat Friendsfrolicnaked on December 1st, 2005 02:26 am (UTC)
If 80 mL blood loss is the top end of normal, then yes, the second poll seems more accurate. One would have to have a significantly higher total fluid loss to qualify as having menorrhagia. I don't even know what that number would be, specifically, and I wish I could find a source that mentioned total fluid, but I can't, really.

This, though, was interesting:

Menorrhagia is defined as a menstrual period accompanied by a blood loss of greater than 80 to 90 mL. A history of excessive menstrual bleeding (i.e., large volume, flooding, passage of clots and heavy use of tampons) is often a poor indicator of the actual amount of bleeding. Only two-fifths of the women who complain of excessive bleeding actually have a menstrual blood loss of greater than 80 mL per menstrual period. From American Family Physician.

And this, while probably not scientific, is interesting:
Average Menstrual Flow
Approximately 50 to 175 cc., or one-quarter to one-half a cup.
From Sexual Averages.

If this last site is correct, though, it would mean that a lot of women with fluid loss in the 5-6 cup range aren't very abnormal at all.
Goat Friendsfrolicnaked on December 1st, 2005 02:37 am (UTC)
5-6 menstrual cup range
Gluppit the prawling strangles, thereelettaria on December 1st, 2005 03:21 am (UTC)
The idea of losing 5-6 cups of blood as in American measuring cups, the sort you measure flour and sugar with, is distinctly alarming.
Goat Friendsfrolicnaked on December 1st, 2005 03:46 am (UTC)
True.

Although to me, the idea of losing only 1/2 to 1 American measuring cup of menstrual fluid (blood + other) is removed from reality.
Gluppit the prawling strangles, thereelettaria on December 1st, 2005 03:23 am (UTC)
Only two-fifths of the women who complain of excessive bleeding actually have a menstrual blood loss of greater than 80 mL per menstrual period.

Whereas we seem to have it the other way round: lots of us are bleeding more than 80 ml according to our measurements, but not many of those think it's excessive bleeding.

I still reckon our estimates are going to be fairly imprecise. I had a better look at the contents of the cup when I changed it today, and I think I wildly overestimated how far up the cup my menstrual fluid reaches when I was guessing last week. Which makes sense, as I think I'm a light bleeder.
Goat Friendsfrolicnaked on December 1st, 2005 03:53 am (UTC)
And here today, I tried to go 4 and a half hours in my Diva instead of my usual 4. I removed an utterly full cup, plus had a fun goosh of blood run onto my hand. :)
Gluppit the prawling strangles, thereelettaria on December 1st, 2005 02:31 pm (UTC)
I could quite possibly leave mine in for entire period without its overflowing, no wonder you find the idea of losing only 1/2 - 1 American measuring cup to be removed from reality!

Do you think we've gone high enough in the poll? I'm probably in the first category, possibly the second, so it's really hard to guess from my end of things.
Goat Friendsfrolicnaked on December 6th, 2005 05:16 am (UTC)
Hmmm... I waited to answer this until I'd finished - or rather, nearly finished - another period.

I just emptied my 25th full Diva Cup. (Though I've had a couple overflow, I've had no partially full cups this cycle.) I haven't gotten out my measuring utensils, but even if a Diva only holds, say 20mL instead of 30mL, then I'm at roughly 500mL for my cycle.

I should point out that, yes, I did have an IUD inserted just over 3 months ago, so yes, this is a ParaGard adjustment period. However, I've been measuring my menstrual fluid loss since I got my Diva... wow, it will be 2 years now in January. I generally empty 25-30 full Divas, so even if I fill another cup on my cycle (unlikely), I'll still be at the low end of average.

My uterus is crazy.
ever so slightly obsessedscien on December 6th, 2005 05:17 pm (UTC)
bloody hell.

Ooops. Er. Yeah. But woah.

Remind me to never even consider an IUD <shudder> are you expecting them to get better?
Goat Friendsfrolicnaked on December 7th, 2005 03:29 am (UTC)
No. Let me clarify. My periods have not gotten more bloody since getting my IUD. In fact, if anything, they may have gotten less bloody.

Though I really don't feel I've had enough IUD periods (I've had 2) to suggest that my flow is truly getting lighter, I can definitely say that the amount of blood I'm talking about totally happened when my uterus was just my plain old regular uterus. :)
ever so slightly obsessedscien on December 1st, 2005 02:46 pm (UTC)
haha I've had that.