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ktrantingredhed
05 March 2017 @ 12:38 pm

HELP! I have looked through this group a lot, read the FAQ entries, watched several Youtube videos, looked through some cup advice forums, no matter what I've tried, I STILL cannot get my cup to open and nobody's situation seems to match mine exactly. I have a suspicion that my vagina is just too narrow. I'm 35, never given birth, using the "Viva cup" small size, which seems to be a knockoff Diva cup.

It's a rather soft cup, which might be the problem, but I'd really like to get it to work since I've already spent the $$ and I am not in a position financially to try a ton of different cups. Let me tell you what all I HAVE tried, often in combination:

Every fold I could find (U, E, I, S, 7, 9, double 7, origami, labia, triangle, punch down)
Every angle I could think of
Twisting the cup around
Hula hooping, squatting, lunging
Lube
Cold water
Pushing against the vaginal wall
Inserting halfway to let it pop/try to open it
Pushing the cup against my upper wall to make space for it to open
Making the holes bigger
Drilling more holes
Trying to use my finger to grab the rim and try to open it
Squeezing my muscles while pushing it in
Orgasming to relax my muscles

The darn thing just WILL NOT unfold! The punch down fold seems to be the one that gets closest to opening, but I've still never gotten it all the way. It often it just collapses down into a U fold and then I'm back where I started. Is it possible that I just plain cannot use a soft cup? Everything I read seems to suggest that I'm "just doing it wrong" because "anyone, even a virgin" should be able to use a soft cup, but I cannot think of anything else to try. I'm rather exasperated and disappointed (not to mention sore).

 
Serpent: neutralserpent_849 on March 5th, 2017 07:55 pm (UTC)
oh wow, is the 9 fold from my post? http://menstrual-cups.livejournal.com/2618390.html :))))
it seems like you've really tried everything :) with cold water and pushing the BACK wall, waiting is really important. it may take like 30 seconds. does the cup actually feel a little harder when you use cold water?

virginity is quite irrelevant really. most people with vaginas can *use* a soft cup without discomfort, but not everyone can get one to open.

http://menstrual-cups.livejournal.com/1063119.html is the diamond fold the same as double 7?

are you able to fold and open your cup if you place it between your fingers and thumb (or basically in any way that mimics a vagina/tube)? are you able to insert 2-3 fingers into your vag?

under what conditions does it get the closest to opening? is it your cervix that pushes it down into a U fold again?
it doesn't have to be perfectly round btw. as long as it's not flat everything's fine.

is it uncomfortable to have it inside when it's folded? how long have you left it there? it may open on its own after like 15-30 mins if it's not painful to wait.

some legit cups are quite cheap, consider getting a meluna sport maybe.

have you seen any reviews of the viva cup? did the person manage to make it open? since it's a lesser-known cup maybe ask them for advice.
ktrantingredhedktrantingredhed on March 6th, 2017 04:29 pm (UTC)
I haven't seen anything anywhere about the Viva cup, so it's an obscure brand for sure (also Google keeps trying to correct it to Diva cup lol). It did seem a little stiffer under cold water but not enough to pop.

It comes closest to opening when I relentlessly fiddle with it after it's all the way in. I've managed to be able to push the punchdown to make it smaller, but often it just collapses back into a U.

I guess a firmer cup is better? Is that what Meluna sport is?
Serpent: neutralserpent_849 on March 9th, 2017 01:19 pm (UTC)
i see. i have to insert any cup less than halfway in (really low cervix), then i fiddle with the U or 9 fold to open it :) when the cup is not folded but still flat, i let some air in to make it round rather than flat. with a really soft cup you need a combination of tricks :) (i also use cold water)

yes meluna sport is firmer.
alexandria1994 on March 5th, 2017 11:23 pm (UTC)

have you tried putting it in and then pulling it out slightly and finally pushing it into place? i have the lunette and the lily and when i use the lily, i have to do that a couple times to get it to open. i'd also recommend pushing against the back wall of your vagina for maybe 30 seconds. it helps to get air into the cup and usually works with the lunette when i can't get it to open.

Kai: 2Cupskuradi8 on March 6th, 2017 01:03 am (UTC)
Try turning it around so the folded part faces the other direction. That made all the difference in the world to me. I hope it does for you too.
jess_amina on March 6th, 2017 02:55 am (UTC)
Not trying to sound critical, but is it an ebay cup? I have had/have a number of cups and other than my MeLuna soft, my ebay few (3 of them) are all some kind of silicone that just won't open for me, no matter what I do. In the end I decided they weren't worth the savings and coughed up for a proper diva cup (and then got a different size from MC sales which might be an option for you, diva's are frequently coming up on there), which while it hasn't been perfect at least opens without too much trouble.

Another one similar to the diva is the small yuuki (comes in soft which isn't too soft and firm, my yuukis have always opened for me without fail and are available on ebay from the company itself for around $24). It really seems like you've tried everything.
ktrantingredhedktrantingredhed on March 6th, 2017 04:32 pm (UTC)
It's a Groupon cup, so probably similar. I really think it could just be too soft. I guess a firmer cup is what I need to try. Before buying I didn't really research much because I naively thought all the cups were basically the same. Once I got it and tried it out.....lol.

I really want to do this! I would love if I NEVER had to buy pads or tampons again.
jess_amina on March 7th, 2017 11:29 pm (UTC)
A firmer cup might work better for you. Before you buy, just be sure you know the height of your cervix so you don't get one that's too long (not sure how this one went as far as length goes). The diva cup is one of the longest so if that's a knockoff of it it's probably pretty long.