First time user of any menstrual cup. Insertion I have been able to master. Removal is painful! I am 41 years old and have 1 child. I am a lesbian and my wife and I do not use dildos or wide vibrators. I only share this because of the pain! I have been able to listen for the suction release (learned the hard way!). The pain come after the suction release and actual removal of the cup. I don't care about getting my blood on my hands. I only want it to not be painful when I take the cup completely out. I don't know how to tip it or fold it when it's inside. I have watched videos but the videos are not the proper way the hands/wrists would be when maneuvering down there. I'm using the diva cup size 2. Any advice is welcome!