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I'm sorry if this question has been asked before, I've been searching on here for a few hours and haven't found any problems quite like mine!

So this is my 4th cycle trying a menstrual cup, my second using my Meluna classic small with the ring-style handle. I'm 23, never been pregnant, and have a fairly small stature. I also have mild vaginismus, which I've had for my entire sex life. I say mild because I can have sex, although not without pain. It's still fun so I bear through it, and within a day or 2 any soreness I've had is gone.

For whatever reason, fingers hurt me way more than much-larger male parts. I think it's the nails that hurt so much (even though mine are quite short.) Because of this, removal is a bit difficult, because trying to insert multiple fingers up around the side of the cup pinches and hurts wayyy too much. My removal method involves wiggle-walking the cup down and then when it starts to feel like it's ripping me in half I have to try to reach in as best I can and fold the cup. It's not as bad as it sounds. I feel confident about removing it, but I'm worried that it's partially responsible for the soreness/burning I feel while wearing the cup.

So here's my actual question: why am I feeling a burning/soreness sensation that seems to get worse the longer I wear the cup? It feels the same as that burning sensation that is common with vaginismus. I had to remove the cup earlier because of it, and I'm wondering if it's from the trauma of insertion/removal or if my muscles tensing around the cup could cause it? If so, why does no one else seem to have this problem?

One other thing I've noticed is that my cup tends to sit at quite a tilt, with the ring stem digging into the left wall of my vagina. My doctor did comment before that I have a tilted cervix, so I'm sure that's why. However, it does make that area especially sore and I was wondering if maybe I should try a different style of stem? I read somewhere on here that the ball stem version of a Meluna is more comfortable than the common style of stem. I've also seen that people turn their cups inside out but there is NO WAY I could get that back out considering my issue with fingers.

This ended up being quite long, so I'll summarize:
Why does my cup feel like its tearing up my vagina when it's just sitting in there?
Does my removal method have something to do with it?
Is the combination of a tilted cervix and a sharp ring stem the cherry on top?
 
vividsunsets on June 24th, 2016 04:27 am (UTC)
I forgot to mention, I do use plenty of lube when inserting.
Tashanamelessw0nder on June 24th, 2016 02:27 pm (UTC)
I think all of the issues are related to the vaginismus. Everything I've read says that the pain from vaginismus can feel like "tearing". Even if the cup is just sitting there, it's still exerting some pressure on the muscle walls, which gives them something to react to (tense up against).

The cup ring may be a factor, but the only way you'll know for sure is by trying a different style.

I don't know if you're aware, but there are some exercises you can do (on your own, though physical therapy is also an option) to help with vaginismus. Most of it is doing kegels so that you can manually relax when you are experiencing symptoms, but I believe there are some other methods as well.
vividsunsets on June 25th, 2016 03:06 am (UTC)
Thanks for the reply! I'm thinking you're right, because it does feel similar to the burning sensation that sex gives me. Do you know of any "smoother" cups? I'm sort of wondering if it's the ridge on the rim of the cup that's hurting me?

My gyno once told me to try perineal massage prior to sex, but didn't really say what it was. I looked it up and when I saw that there were fingers involved, I wrote it off. I'll have to check out the other methods though!
justice_02justice_02 on June 27th, 2016 03:36 am (UTC)
The Super Jennie is a very smooth cup. The seams on the cup are virtually undetectable.
vividsunsets on July 11th, 2016 04:57 pm (UTC)
I've never heard of that one! I'll look into it :)
bklynmom on June 25th, 2016 10:23 pm (UTC)
Do you think it could be a sensitivity to the tpe that the meluna is made of? I didn't know vaginismus felt like burning, I'd always heard it felt like a muscle spasm. Of course, pain feels differently for everyone and you know your body best. But if you thin the material could be a problem, a silicone cup might help.
vividsunsets on June 26th, 2016 12:28 am (UTC)
That's a good point! I tried a Lena cup originally but stopped using it because the stem was irritating me...I don't remember if it gave me the "burning" feeling or not! Maybe I'll have to try a silicone cup next!
here_never on June 27th, 2016 08:11 am (UTC)
I had mild vaginismus for a while (and was pretty bullheaded about it--I think I made a long post about it here months ago) and using a small soft MeLuna with a ball stem actually helped me out. I moved on to the medium soft MeLuna eventually because my cervix is a bit too high for the small, but its being soft has been a great help to me. The ball stem is pretty comfortable; my uterus is tilted, too, and it doesn't bother me.
vividsunsets on July 11th, 2016 04:59 pm (UTC)
I think I saw your post! That was the one that made me consider the ball stem :) I wish more cups had them, because I'd like to try a different brand in case it's the material of the meluna that's causing the "burning" feeling.
here_never on July 12th, 2016 01:33 pm (UTC)
I find the ball stem really comfortable; I guess that's why it's apparently MeLuna's most popular stem. Unfortunately it doesn't seem to be a popular stem option as few brands have it.

Hoping you find the right silicone cup for you!
..::bella vita::..por_que_no on July 3rd, 2016 10:09 pm (UTC)
For the first several months I was using cups, I actually used Orajel/Anbesol (the stuff they market to teething babies) around the entrance before insertion and removal. It might help a little bit. Just make sure it does NOT contain anything like petrolatum, dimethicone, anything with "icone" at the end, etc. Those will degrade the silicone (which cost me the stem on one Si-Bell when I forgot about that and used petrolatum-based yeast infection ointment while on my period...)
vividsunsets on July 11th, 2016 05:00 pm (UTC)
That's a good tip! My problem is that the discomfort is more on the inside than the outside, though :/
newconvert on July 31st, 2016 02:37 pm (UTC)
I tried a MeLuna sport as my second cup but had to give it up because it was so firm that insertion and removal caused discomfort that only got worse as my period continued, and the soreness lasted a day or two afterwards, too. I switched to the Super Jennie which is larger but a lot softer, and I've been happy since!