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seaweed88
13 April 2016 @ 10:28 pm
Does anyone with soft cup experience in general, or Super Jennie experience specifically, have issues with the cup not opening to its full cup shape and therefore losing some capacity? I was happy with my ruby cup but wanted a bit more capacity, so I got a SJ large. I can get it open, but the softer bottom half of the cup seems to collapse in a bit and I'm actually having to empty it more often than my ruby. (although I technically should be getting about 7.5 more MLs)
 
jezebelsblues on April 14th, 2016 08:07 am (UTC)
I've never tried the SJ. And, the only softer cup that has worked for me is the Miacup. However, there are reviews on YouTube for the SJ.
Tdoriswebb on April 14th, 2016 01:11 pm (UTC)
I find the Super Jennie a little frustrating. It's harder to feel it opening than my Ruby and I find the seal breaks more easily as well. I've only had my cup leak a few times, but I think it was the Jennie both times. It's a great shape, but I wish it was a bit firmer.
seaweed88: pic#126028927seaweed88 on April 14th, 2016 02:21 pm (UTC)
Do you find it harder to remove as well? I'm having such a hard time breaking the seal to remove it. I know they let you return the cup within 30 days if you're not happy. I really can't decide if I should send it back or not.
Tdoriswebb on April 14th, 2016 10:42 pm (UTC)
It's a little trickier to remove than the Ruby. Might be the shiny finish. I thought about returning it, but it's nice for heavy nights. Ya move much less then, so less chance of the seal breaking! Just noticed I didn't answer this...the bottom getting pinched is probably your pubic bone, which you can't do anything about if you're already pushing the cup as high as it goes.
seaweed88: pic#126028927seaweed88 on April 14th, 2016 11:31 pm (UTC)
I think I'm with you on this. It's good enough to keep for heavy nights. Although it is such a pain to get out. Literally and figuratively!
..::bella vita::..por_que_no on April 15th, 2016 03:47 am (UTC)
Would enlarging the suction holes help? Everyone complains about this with the Diva.
seaweed88: pic#126028927seaweed88 on April 15th, 2016 04:52 am (UTC)
The main problem I'm having is that the lower half of the cup is so extremely soft that when you pinch the base, nothing really happens. And I have a high cervix and kind of short fingers, so it's pretty hard for me to reach up high enough on the cup to break the seal.
..::bella vita::..por_que_no on April 15th, 2016 05:59 pm (UTC)
I see...weird, with my Si-Bell I found that the extreme softness just meant that the cup never made a seal at all and I could just pull it down to get it out. I find the Rainbow to be the same way (and I've never had suction issues with the slightly firmer MamiCup, only the issue with the stem being irritating)
seaweed88: pic#126028927seaweed88 on April 15th, 2016 06:31 pm (UTC)
Oh, strange! So far I've gotten a good seal
..::bella vita::..por_que_no on April 14th, 2016 07:39 pm (UTC)
Never tried the SJ since it's a bit short for me but this happened fairly often with my Si-Bell. My pubic bone is quite high so it will pinch the base of just about any cup (and I can only handle cups like the SJ or softer since my bladder is really sensitive and my vag is basically pushed up against it by a fibroid)
mossmorton on April 15th, 2016 02:05 pm (UTC)
Uhg, 30 days is not enough time to test a cup! My cycle can be up to 35 days long, and how can you tell within one cycle?

I've just used the SJ and even though I have a low, usually dangly cervix, the SJ rides high on me; maybe because it is larger, it has to move up to fit?

I am very sensitive and need soft cups, so I've gotten used to getting them to open. I usually use a 7 fold, and when inserting I make more room in my vagina by exhaling, holding the breath out, and then drawing my stomach in and up. Still holding breath, I push the cup back toward the tailbone with my thumb and let it open from the rim first, then exhale and see how it feels. This also helps ensure I catch my cervix. Sometimes this technique gets a little too much air in the cup, but it's easy to burp it out. If it doesn't feel right, I take it out, start over, and usually get it by the second try.
jennisezjennisez on April 15th, 2016 11:50 pm (UTC)
Hi! I love my large Super Jennie - it's my Goldilocks cup! I find it helps to wiggle the bottom of the cup slightly as the cup is unfolding to encourage it to open all the way. That usually does the trick for me. Occasionally, the base of the cup may feel kinda dented and not fully rounded. When that happens, it helps me to wiggle the bottom of the cup while bearing down. It usually pops all the way open then. Also, running a finger between the cup and the back wall of the vagina lets some air in, which can also help open the cup.

As far as removal goes, I pinch the bottom of the cup, walk it out a little, and then fold the cup into a U-shape to break the seal. I cradle the back of the cup with my index and second fingers, and fold in a U-shape with my thumb. I just work my way up the cup like that until the seal breaks.

Anyway, those are my personal tips. I hope that helps!
seaweed88: pic#126028927seaweed88 on April 16th, 2016 12:10 am (UTC)
Thanks for your response. Which fold do you use when inserting? I usually use the punch down for my other cups, but I could only get the SJ to open with the 7-fold. I use my index finger to push the bottom of the 7 up to the top of the rim.... I'm not sure that I could wiggle the bottom at the same, but I'll try next time. Do you have any other suggestions? I want to like this cup!
jennisezjennisez on April 18th, 2016 03:09 pm (UTC)
Sorry I didn't get back to you sooner - I didn't have a chance to check in over the weekend.

I use the C-fold with the ends of the C facing my tailbone. I stand with one foot on the toilet and bend forward slightly at the waist to insert. Once I feel that the rim and most of the cup is past the pubic bone, I start to let it go by sliding my fingers down the cup to let the rim open. Once my fingers get near the base of the stem, I gently rock the cup back and forth a bit to encourage it to open all the way. Like I said, if the bottom of the cup still feels dented, wiggling the cup near the base of the stem while bearing down usually rounds the bottom all the way out. Then I run a finger around the cup and the rim to make sure that it's open and that everything feels right. For me, the SJ seems to immediately settle itself where it needs to be on its own.

If it's still not open - like the rim is still scrunched up - you can try pressing on an opposing side of the cup and see if that gets it to pop open.

Bryony (Bree) from Precious Stars Pads made a helpful video on how to remove a cup: https://youtu.be/LljkmNl8qdc. It's the method I use to get mine out. Bree's got a lot of great videos on menstrual cups, so her YouTube channel is definitely worth checking out if you haven't already.

Those are my tips, but your experience may vary since everyone's body is different. I hope that the Super Jennie works out for you because it is a great cup!
seaweed88: pic#126028927seaweed88 on April 18th, 2016 04:56 pm (UTC)
I love Bree.. Have watched probably all of her videos :) That is how I take my cup out, but when I pinch the base of the SJ, nothing happens, and my cups end up so high up that it is definitely a major struggle to get fingers high enough up there to do anything. I'll keep working at it though!
newconvert on April 16th, 2016 11:50 am (UTC)
I second jennisez's comments. I love the SJ and haven't had any problems with it, but I also realized I have a few habits that make it work for me:

* Posture matters! Sitting/slouching with my back very rounded seems to bring everything into the position I need for easy insertion/removal. I have a much harder time trying other methods (though obviously everyone has different anatomy).

* Pinching the bottom is the start: as I keep pinching I gently guide it down and pinch further up as it comes in reach. I usually don't hear the seal breakbreak until I tilt the cup to keep the contents from spilling.

* I don't really worry about the seal forming when I insert it. As long as my cervix is in the cup, I consider it to be in place and I've never had a leak with the SJ.

I just use a u/c fold, but I've had two kids and used non-applicator tampons for ~15 years so I'm probably more comfortable with that part than average. I'm sorry I don't have any tricks there - I hope the others help!
seaweed88: pic#126028927seaweed88 on April 16th, 2016 10:53 pm (UTC)
Thanks for the tips!

When you say "I usually don't hear the seal breakbreak until I tilt the cup to keep the contents from spilling", which way are you tilting it?
newconvert on April 17th, 2016 01:22 am (UTC)
I'm tilting the base downward, so the cup comes out mostly upright.
pinkblue7 on April 30th, 2016 10:58 am (UTC)
I've just purchased a SJ so it's been good to read this thread! I'm fairly new to cups, have been using a Juju, and decided to purchase the Jennie for extra capacity.
Wow. It's really soft compared to the Juju. I'm not sure if it was a fluke, but in a dry run the SJ opened easily. I'm not sure how, I just smooshed it up there thinking there was no way but it just kind of did. And I always had to take my time with the Juju to get it to open, so I was expecting a battle with the SJ.
I start my period in the next day or two so I get to really figure it out. I look forward to reading more about others experiences of the SJ & will post back about mine!