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22 January 2016 @ 04:52 pm
I hope you guys can enlighten me. I've been using menstrual cups for about two years now. I only own two because I don't come by them easily and I would rather not really have a large collection. Mine are the InCiclo (size A) and the Meluna Soft (size M).

I have a theory that I feel pain on the first day of each cycle because the cup slides up during the day until it touches the cervix. It is only a theory, and I have no idea why the following days are not painful at all (I even forget the cup is inside me). I'm not a medical professional of any kind so I know only basic stuff about my anatomy.

So here's the thing.... I was wondering if you guys had any formed opinions (or knowledge) if size and firmness of the cup can help prevent it from sliding up. It doesn't matter how low I place my cups or how good the seal is, after a few hours they will always slide up. I wanted to buy a new cup. I only know of MeLuna, Lunette and InCiclo selling in Brazil via website. Although the Lunette is more than double the price of the other two and that makes me take a step back, since I can't know if it will work out like I want.

I don't know if I should go wider (thinking it might not touch the cervix as much!? or maybe get stuck before sliding that far up).... should I insist in softer cups? The Meluna Soft is great, but I can't get a good seal with it... it might be the size (M), or the softness... I'm not sure... It's so hard to know when I've only ever tried two cups!

Looking forward to opinions and experiences.... and if you know of other cups that sell online in Brazil, let me know... I live in Rio, thank you.
Tdoriswebb on January 23rd, 2016 05:46 am (UTC)
I'm not sure why your cup would be uncomfortable on only your first day. I get that sometimes too.

There's no way to keep it from sliding up. I know the instructions that come with most cups show them worn very low in the vagina, but that's inaccurate for a lot of people. They tend to naturally migrate up. Generally they're also less likely to leak if positioned up high, right below the cervix. As long as you can reach the bottom of the cup to remove it, you're fine!
glioncourt: Green_Deathglioncourt on January 23rd, 2016 03:46 pm (UTC)
Thanks! I read a little bit more since I posted this. I see now that the cup will always end up near the cervix.

I still think the pain has to do with the cup and the cervix... The pain grows over the day and subsides quickly after I remove the cup.... Maybe the cervix is a different shape on that day.... So maybe a wider diameter might be a better fit after all.... That's what I'm thinking now...
m03m on January 23rd, 2016 01:30 pm (UTC)
I don't know if I should go wider (thinking it might not touch the cervix as much!?

No guarantees, but you may be on to something here. A wider cup may sit around your cervix more loosely.
glioncourt: Green_Deathglioncourt on January 23rd, 2016 03:49 pm (UTC)
Yes, thank you.... I think I'll end up buying the bigger Lunette after all.... It seems to be wider.... Or maybe the Melina XL.... I'm not sure....

One year ago I thought the problem was that the inciclo was too big and too firm.... The Meluna soft helped a bit with the pain, but not completely... Never thought I'd go bigger LOL
m03m on January 23rd, 2016 05:28 pm (UTC)
Maybe the Fleurcup is suitable? It's pretty soft and it sells worldwide for a very fair flat shipping fee.
glioncourtglioncourt on January 23rd, 2016 09:18 pm (UTC)
Thank you! I just googled it and I think I found a place that can get it to me with a good price. Thanks for the tip!
m03m on January 23rd, 2016 09:32 pm (UTC)
I'd also suggest to compare prices with the price you get when you buy directly from the manufacturer at fleurcup.com.
glioncourtglioncourt on January 23rd, 2016 11:52 pm (UTC)
Thank you!
Kai: 2Cupskuradi8 on January 23rd, 2016 02:08 pm (UTC)
Your Inciclo is 56mm long plus stem.

Read this for sliding up: http://kuradi8.livejournal.com/

Drink more water before/during your period.
glioncourtglioncourt on January 23rd, 2016 09:12 pm (UTC)
Thank you! I don't think I have a problem with the length though... I used to think the InCiclo was big all around, but on the 2nd and 3rd day it sits comfortably in there... on the first day, it hurts but it still fits inside, I have to reach a tiny bit for the stem....

I have no idea... maybe it's that dangly crervix thing!? The pain grows slowly over the hours and when I remove the cup is starts subsiding somewhat quickly... so it's got to be something to do with contact or pressure, I'm guessing... I have no idea, that's why I thought I'd ask here.
Kai: 2Cupskuradi8 on January 23rd, 2016 09:21 pm (UTC)
My point was that your Inciclo is already a long cup. Most of your other choices are shorter and therefore harder to reach the base for removal and also will seem like they slid up farther. (No, it will just seem that way.)

A dangly cervix shouldn't hurt. It would take up space in your cup reducing its capacity.

And even the narrowest cup should be wider than the widest cervix -- but maybe a wider cup would be more comfortable after all.
glioncourtglioncourt on January 23rd, 2016 09:27 pm (UTC)
I don't mind shorter cups. I can manage removing my Meluna Soft M just fine... sure I have to reach in more... but the ring stem is very good for me to grip.

It hurts me less too, but it might be the softness... my problem with it is the seal, not good for me at all.

mossmorton on January 27th, 2016 03:07 am (UTC)
I am often very extra sensitive/tender/painful on my first day, and only on my first day, but what you're describing seems a little different than 'just cramps' as the pain subsides fairly quickly when you remove the cup.

I think I have experienced this before too: too much suction from the cup combined with/causing the sliding up and high riding of the cup. For me, I think it is because my cervix drops low on my first day and everything is more swollen internally so my vaginal cavity is smaller and shorter. I've had the same feeling of relief moments after removing the cup.

What I have found that helps is when inserting the cup I try to suck up my stomach to draw my abdomen up and create a little more space in my vagina and get a little more of an air pocket in there before/as I'm inserting the cup and letting it open. Pushing the cup back to my tailbone while it's just at the entrance helps the air go in, and exhaling before trying to suck up makes it easier. It's like the reverse of bearing down for removal and also relaxing the kegel muscles so the vaginal opening is looser.
You can adjust the air pocket by burping the cup, if you will, but usually the extra air will work it's way out in a few minuets when I stand up straight, bend over, or bear down just a little.

This also lets the cup ride lower because it has a 'headspace' in there.

Hope this makes sense and helps! I also have a very soft cup that I can wear on my first day; it's a Natu which is like a Si-bell but maybe a hair softer and with a much more comfortable stem, imo.
glioncourtglioncourt on January 29th, 2016 01:46 am (UTC)
Wow! I never put so much thought into it. But I'm bookmarking your comment so that I can take a look at it before my next cup usage. I will sure try that! Thank you!