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I've scoured this website and many others for months on end, since I first heard about cups and reusable pads. You all are awesome, and i've learned so much on here. But I've tried searching for the solution to my struggles and can't seem to find it, so I decided to finally join as a last ditch effort before I quit cups altogether and deal with the the labor intensive and odorous reusable pads.

I started with a rainbow cup, i wanted a soft, inexpensive cup because i wasnt sure if i'd be able to use a cup comfortably (i'm a little sensitive and have never been comfortable w/tampons, they gave me cramps and I hated removal). I've had the rainbow for about 5 months now. I insert without a problem, i fiddle with it quite a bit to make it open (and dont mind that, i've delivered a child before and am comfortable w/my body), The problems:

1. If i insert it according to the pictures everywhere that show it riding lower than a tampon, in the vag. canal it doesn't open no matter how much I fiddle. It sits like a crushed popcan and starts to sag a bit and hurts my tissue. (not the stem since I cut that on the first day, i don't use it and my cup sits slanted inside me)
2. When i push it past the pubic bone, further up i can get it to open more easily, it suctions (I can tell when I remove it). The problem is i have cramps and can feel it all the time, until i finally give up and take it out.

I've tried to find a slightly lower spot for it to sit, but that doesn't work it's either too low and sags or ends up riding too high.

Sooo...I'm confused about where the cup is supposed to sit. I'm considering quitting it, even though i really wanted to be a cup user. I like the reduced environmental impact and that it doesnt take as much work as reusable pads. Anyone have ideas? I'm wondering if a firmer cup sitting lower would be better? I've been thinking of the lunette. Is the cramping just part of the deal? Is my cervix too sensitive to use a cup? I'm at a loss. I feel like i've read everything cup related on the net and cant find answers. I'd really appreciate any input or help. TIA!

In case it's helpful, I went with a size 1, since my flow is not heavy and my muscles are decent (i think), and i'm sensitive. I later tried an icare size 2 and OUCH. If there is hope of me using a cup pain free I'll never go with another china cheapie again...i promise! Right now I just don't know if it's worth it to spend money on the better cups, unless I know there's a way to make it work.
Kai: 2Cupskuradi8 on January 3rd, 2016 11:21 pm (UTC)
Skim/Read http://kuradi8.livejournal.com/ and forget that you ever read the directions that came with your cup. ;o)

As for a cheapie Chinese cup... there's nothing "wrong" with them if they fit you well and work right. Most generic cups only have two tiny little anti-suction holes. Enlarge them and don't be afraid to add a couple more.
dandylillies on January 5th, 2016 04:39 am (UTC)
kuadi8, wow that seems like a great resource, this is the first time I see it. Thanks! One question...If i add holes to the cup, will that make the suction stronger? (assuming that's why it's causing discomfort).

Edited at 2016-01-05 04:42 am (UTC)
Kai: 2Cupskuradi8 on January 5th, 2016 01:38 pm (UTC)
Follow the link at the paragraph about suction.
Tdoriswebb on January 4th, 2016 12:39 am (UTC)
The short answer here is...the instructions are wrong! I'm guessing the companies think their product will sell better if it's less 'invasive' than a tampon.
For most users, the cup works best when pushed up past the pubic bone - as high as possible. 'Too high' is not usually a problem. Leaks are less likely if your cervix is seated in or just above the cup.
Have you been using your cup throughout periods? I'm kinda wondering whether you feel it all the time because you're not used to it yet.
dandylillies on January 5th, 2016 04:41 am (UTC)
you're probably right, just hearing that cups work differently than tampons made them appealing to me, i hate tampons! I have been using it every period, but just for a day or two each...because i stay feeling it and cramp. I guess it's possible that i'm super aware of it because i'm wondering if i'm using it right. I do cramp though, which makes me wonder. thanks!

Edited at 2016-01-05 04:45 am (UTC)
smudgefox on January 4th, 2016 11:27 pm (UTC)
Yeah you have to insert past the pelvic bone otherwise there is no space for the cup to open, but I'd personally advocate trying to kegel it up once you get a seal... but then my cervix sets hard to the right (opening faces left) so I can't just shove the cup up to it.

Instead I ease it upwards a little at a time with a little shimmy squeeze dance until it's comfy. You might try that?
dandylillies on January 5th, 2016 04:44 am (UTC)
that sounds like a great idea! That's kind of funny, i find my cup turns towards the left on it's own, i think my cervix is a bit on the left. I will try the shimmying with kegals and see if it helps get it in a comfortable place. thanks!
alyndra: Elizabeth Swannalyndra on January 6th, 2016 05:19 am (UTC)
Cramps can happen when something rubs against or even touches the cervix. They can also happen when you're low in calcium or water, so try taking a big calcium supplement with a glass of water and see if that helps.

It also might help if you make sure that some air gets past the cup into the vagina. Stick your finger up alongside the cup, relax your muscles, and move it around until you feel a good amount of air go in there. The cup will open better and hopefully not travel as far up on its own, or have too strong a suction.

It should sit all the way up in there, not where the company diagrams show, but if you still can't keep it from going too far up and bothering your cervix, it's possible a wider (but not too wide) cup might work better. That's just a guess though.
..::bella vita::..por_que_no on January 7th, 2016 08:17 pm (UTC)
I'm impressed that you're even able to KEEP your cup in a low position. Almost any cup will automatically migrate up to nestle against your cervix. Almost all directions that come with the cups themselves are wrong in this respect. And yes, you do want to wear it right against the cervix so you don't end up missing your cervix and leaking all over.

Kuradi's suggestion to enlarge the suction holes is good.

It's also possible that your cervix is EXACTLY the diameter of the inside of the cup and that it's choking your cervix. This happened with my Lily, which has an inner lip that makes it narrower in inside diameter than most cups. In that case, a wider cup will fix that. Are you already using a L Rainbow? It's not that big as far as large cups go, so you could go bigger. Doesn't the cervix also stay a bit wider after you've delivered, if you didn't have a C-section anyway? That might be the issue.