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14 December 2015 @ 07:21 am
Hi all,

You are a great community and I'm so thankful I can come here with questions and not be nervous about it!!

I am 26, virgin/no kids, and started using cups about 15 months ago. Apart from the initial learning curve (having never used tampons before), I've faced a recurring issue that I can't seem to fix. No matter the cup, there usually seems to be some leakage when it is only half full (or half-empty, as it may be).

Usually when I notice this happening, I remove the cup and I notice that as I'm starting to remove it, some blood falls onto the tub floor, then the cup comes out in my hand, then another huge glob of blood (sorry if this is graphic, not sure how else to explain it) falls onto my hand or the floor. This suggests that though the cup is not full, not all the fluid is going inside. It makes for a few issues...

1) leakage/staining when the cup's not full
2) messy removal. It's really not tempting to try to remove the cup in a public washroom when I know it's going to be so messy.
3) confusion! Why does it always leak when it's not full??
4) expensive - I have tried so many different cups to try and resolve it!

For reference, here are the cups I tried, in this order:

1. Diva Cup, the smaller version. I thought it was probably too long and I didn't like the extreme suction, so I switched to:
2. Lunette small. Loved the size, shape, texture, and stiffness, but it also leaked! So I thought I needed something very different, and tried:
3. Organicup Large. It's much larger and softer - I thought maybe my cervix needed more room? Still leaked when not full, so I thought maybe it was way too soft and that I need something firmer and smaller that won't get crushed inside me:
4. Yuuki size 1 soft. This is where I am now, and woke up this morning with the same issue :(

Does anyone know what could be causing this issue and how to preven it? Do I need to empty and re-insert it more often? How would I know how often to change if I only realize it's leaking when that happens?

I thought it was the dangly cervix thing I've read about, but then why did the same thing happen with the Large Organicup?

THANK YOU ALL SO MUCH FOR YOUR HELP!
 
yayforcupsyayforcups on December 13th, 2015 02:47 pm (UTC)
Maybe try something with a round body like LUB?
Kathlynekathlyne on December 13th, 2015 02:51 pm (UTC)
I sounds like all the cups you have tried are pointy. Maybe a rounder bottomed cup would give you a little more capacity.

I think you have a dangly cervix, taking up room in the cup, so no matter which cup you use, when you remove it--it will not look full. Even if you get a rounder bottomed cup. You may get more capacity, but you still won't be able to fill it completely. The answer is to empty it more often. How long do you normally go before it starts to leak (which is really overflow)? 4 hours? Then empty it every 3.5.

Also, just because cups can be worn for 12 hours doesn't mean that you will get to wear one 12 hours without leakage. When they are full, they are full.

I like the large fleur and large superjennie. Still, I have to empty them every 1.5-2 hours on my heaviest day, and they never look full when I do empty them. But.....if I leave it for more than 2 hours.....overflow.
perideaux on December 14th, 2015 12:59 am (UTC)
You say that you get huge blobs of blood falling out when you remove the cup...when you remove the cup, do you pinch the base until the seal breaks then wiggle it out while it's open? Or do you push down on/fold the cup while it's inside you to remove it with less pain/pressure?

It's possible you are actually pushing the menstrual fluid OUT of the cup while you're trying to remove it, and that the cup actually is full/overflowing until you pull it out. This happened to me with my Ladycup before, my only leak-free cup. It was completely full but I can't remove cups without folding them inside me (ESPECIALLY not with such a firm rim) so the cup came out half full, and the other half drizzled out into the toilet. If that is the case and you're leaking beforehand, it does sound like an overflow. Maybe a combination of a dangly cervix + heavy flow?
Johannaen_dejlig_aften on December 14th, 2015 04:42 am (UTC)
The large fleurcup fixed a lot of leaking issues for me (due to a low cervix). And it's not too expensive.

The cup never looks full when I empty it. If the cervix is taking up room inside the cup, then it's causing displacement of liquid. As a result, the cup won't look full when you empty it. I also have to empty it more frequently on heavy days.
Kai: 2Cupskuradi8 on December 15th, 2015 04:35 am (UTC)
Yes, you have a dangly cervix. A higher capacity cup might give you a little more time before it fills to the point of overflowing but the ones you have are already high capacity for the small dimensions that you seem to prefer. Do you need to empty your cups more often? Yes. How will you know when? A clock. Remember how long it takes to overflow, especially on your heavy days/nights. Empty it before then.

It is not unusual to need to empty even a high capacity cup every few hours on a heavy day, especially if you have a dangly cervix. As much as you might wish and want to be able to go longer, you can't -- not without overflowing. You're not doing anything wrong. That's just the way it is. Cups shouldn't be kept in for more than 12 hours at a time. But that doesn't mean they will hold 12 hours of heavy flow.

And I hate to say this but if after 15 months and 4 cups, you haven't mastered them yet then maybe cups just aren't right for you. We're all cheering for you to succeed but by this point, you should have a really good idea of timing and be adept at insertion and removal. Since you don't, it might be time to re-evaluate your approach and/or your decision.
ohelloflo on December 15th, 2015 05:50 pm (UTC)
Thanks for the response. I definitely think cups are okay for me - way better than pads, at least - I was just hoping that somewhere out there one was right for me. Now that I know it's most likely a dangly cervix issue, I'll just be sure to empty it more frequently. I was just hoping that I wouldn't have to empty so frequently and that it was just the way I was inserting/removing...but I've got that down fine it seems, and it's the cervix that's the issue. Now I know!