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onlyforever10
16 November 2015 @ 03:11 pm
Hi everyone! It's been a while, but I'm getting back into using my cup and am having some sizing issues.

About 6 years ago, I started using a menstrual cup. Started with the DivaCup, but it was a little too hard, so I researched and ended up going with a small LadyCup. Loved it. Used it for about a year with no issues (I also cut off the stem because it poked me since my cervix is tilted a little.

Then I got an IUD and didn't have a period for over 5 years.

I recently got my IUD out and went back to my LadyCup. The small still worked fine (I've never had a super heavy flow) but I am having issues getting it out. I can't seem to get a grip on it and it's getting sucked up too high in there to grab since I cut the stem off years ago.

So I figured maybe I needed to try a large since I just turned 30 (although I do not have kids). So I bought a large but it's super uncomfortable. I can feel it in there and it presses on my bladder. So that's a no-go.

Any suggestions? I tried looking at the sizing chart, but I'm still at a loss. Should I try a new LadyCup and leave the stem? Or try a longer cup?

Thanks so much for any help!!!
 
Serpentserpent_849 on November 16th, 2015 09:40 pm (UTC)
it's more about your cervix position really. have you been able to find it? if you still have your old diva, you can actually try it inside out. same about the ladycup. my large one HURTS right side out, to the point that i can't wear it at all. inside out it's fine.
ladycups are notoriously slippery, was that an issue?
which part of the cup do you feel? if you feel the rim, perhaps you need something that's in between the small and large in length, for example a large sckoon (i feel the rim too). if you feel the bottom, can it be the pointy shape? some find the shape of the fleurcup and sckoon more comfortable :)
onlyforever10: pic#57847736onlyforever10 on November 16th, 2015 09:53 pm (UTC)
Yes, I can always feel my cervix. With the small LadyCup, I can get one finger up to pull on the rim, but I can't pull it out that way because it just tilts. I just can't get two fingers up there in the pinch position to comfortably grab the bottom because I can't get a grip (too slippery!) and I cut the stem completely off :( it's not that I can't reach it, I just can't get s grip! But I had no issues getting it out years ago. That's why I thought maybe I needed the bigger one since I'm over 30 now.

With the large, in pretty sure I'm feeling the rim, but it just feels too large in general. Like I have a "full" or "need to pee" feeling, if that makes sense.

Thank you for your suggestions! I'll try and see if I can find my old Diva.
Serpent: neutralserpent_849 on November 16th, 2015 10:03 pm (UTC)
how long did you use it? i had the same feeling on my first day with the ladycup, but after that it was fine. i did switch to melunas as soon as meluna soft came out though :) but my cervix is really very low.
onlyforever10: pic#57847736onlyforever10 on November 16th, 2015 10:36 pm (UTC)
I tried the large one twice, but only for maybe an hour each time because it was so uncomfortable.
Serpent: neutralserpent_849 on November 17th, 2015 01:35 pm (UTC)
ouch. but maybe it's worth a try inside out...
onlyforever10: pic#57847736onlyforever10 on November 17th, 2015 04:06 pm (UTC)
I'll give it a try! Thanks!
Kai: 2Cupskuradi8 on November 17th, 2015 02:23 pm (UTC)
"and it's getting sucked up too high in there" Decide whether you need a longer bodied cup or another short one with a long stem. Either way, you need longer length or longer combined length.

PQN will probably recommend the small Si-Bell. It's a small cup with a long stem. (She recommends it to everyone, no matter what their size requirements are but it might actually suit your needs.)

If you want to stay with small cups, the small Lady Cup shares dimensions with MANY others. Another consideration: the Lady Cups are glossy-surfaced cups that some people complain are too slick to remove easily. For their dimensions both small and large Lady Cups also happen to have the lower capacities than others with similar/same dimensions. If you need a little more capacity, then see what the competitors have to offer.
..::bella vita::..por_que_no on November 17th, 2015 08:17 pm (UTC)
Hey, there's a reason I recommend it to so many people! Shortish cup with long but easily trimmable stem means that length can be totally customized. The only people who would be annoyed by it are those who don't like bell-shaped cups, those who really need a firm cup, those with too low a cervix for anything but the Meluna Shorty, and maybe people like me who tend to dig into stems with their nails and pull (my last Si-Bell bit the dust that way). But seriously, it's such a better shot for a first timer than the Diva is.
Kai: 2Cupskuradi8 on November 17th, 2015 08:43 pm (UTC)
LOL! And like always, I will disagree that the SiBell is perfect for everyone and that the Diva is a bad choice for everyone. ;o) Just because one fits you perfectly and the other doesn't, it doesn't mean that it will be that way for everyone.

In this case, the OP does seem to prefer short/narrow cups that have long stems. And in this case the SiBell is probably a good choice. However, if she had thought that a long-bodied cup would have fit better, then the Diva would probably have been a better choice. Yes, the Diva's anti-suction holes should most likely need to be enlarged (it's not the only cup with teeny holes.) But no, it's not a particularly stiff cup despite what you think of yours.
Kathlynekathlyne on November 17th, 2015 10:51 pm (UTC)
You crack me up Kuradi. And as usual, I agree. I know people that bought the diva cup without doing any research and it works for them--despite the tiny holes. It personally didn't work for me, but I don't think it's as horrible as some make it out to be. The

The Diva is horrible and Sibell is for everyone

anthem is annoying.

The Diva isn't wrong for everyone (and I wouldn't even go so far to say it is a "worse bet") and the Sibell isn't right for everyone. The diva didn't work for me, but I'm not sure the Sibell would have either.
Kai: 2Cupskuradi8 on November 17th, 2015 11:21 pm (UTC)
:o) Thanks, Kathlyne. The Diva was my first cup and it didn't work out for me either. Had I learned the inside-out trick sooner, it might have remained my only cup for longer. I chose my next cup even more poorly but then got two that work best for me -- in addition to that inside-out Diva, which proved to be a good fit on my really "BLECH" days.

BTW, I've tried to enlarge the holes on my Diva and my (really old) UK Mooncup but I wasn't very successful. The TEENY holes make them a little more difficult to pop but it didn't take long to figure out how to coax them. I'm more likely to blame issues on lack of technique/patience than the cups themselves. But I still recommend trying to do so, especially to newbies.


Edited at 2015-11-17 11:22 pm (UTC)
not_a_leaf on November 17th, 2015 11:57 pm (UTC)
I first heard of cups in a forum several years ago and all cup users either had the Mooncup UK, the Diva or the Keeper (most today cups were not available then) and most loved their cups. So yes, Divas can definitely work great and I can totally see a Si-belle not working for some people.

I bought the Diva back then, but it gave me such a horrible time that I quit the idea for so long, that the material didn't look ok to try, when I decided to try.
It was not at all the cups fault. I just didn't know a lot of things I have learned here or on Youtube. I didn't know my body well enough either and my cervix is too low and too dangly.

Anyway, if you are able to easily reach a LadyCup small without stem, I would not recommend a Diva ^^

..::bella vita::..por_que_no on November 19th, 2015 03:59 pm (UTC)
Doesn't matter if it's annoying to you or whomever: statistically speaking, purely in terms of cervix length, simple logic dictates that a short body/long stem combination will work for a wider variety of cervix heights. Even an inside-out Diva is going to be too long for someone with a truly low cervix. Softness is a personal preference but the general trend in this community and others seems to be that softness is more appreciated in less experienced cup users.
..::bella vita::..por_que_no on November 19th, 2015 04:09 pm (UTC)
(The one thing Diva did sort of get right, though, is marketing a sort-of-high-cervix-friendly cup to a largely young, childless demographic, a demographic that wouldn't have had years of gravity and pregnancies to do their work and drag the cervix down. However, 70mm is laughable if you have a TRULY high cervix! If Diva wanted to tap into the genuinely high cervix market they should do what iCare does and offer an 83mm total length cup.)
Kathlynekathlyne on November 19th, 2015 04:38 pm (UTC)
Statistics--ha! Logic--ba!

My point is that just because you hate the diva and love the sibell doesn't mean everyone else will. Just because may work for someone doesn't mean it is the best option for them.

Comparisons of squishiness on menstrualcups.wordpress.com found the small sibell and diva to be very similar 25/26.

Serpent: neutralserpent_849 on November 17th, 2015 11:06 pm (UTC)
also those who need a higher capacity, especially given that a cervix can sit in the cup and steal some.
not_a_leaf on November 17th, 2015 05:26 pm (UTC)
I'll second the Si-belle and add the Fleur, which is basically the Si-belle in firmer (still softer rim than LadyCup). Both give perfect grip even without the stem. If you want to keep the stem, I'd rather not take the Fleur, especially since your cervix is tilted.

If the length of the LadyCup large is good, you might have a good result with the large Si-Belle. It has about the same dimensions as the LadyCup large, but it is super soft.
I had bladder pressure with the large Juju, which has a softer rim than the LadyCup small (don't have the large) and the Si-Belle doesn't give me those problems at all, though it took some time to figure out how to open that fast.
Of course I can't promise it will be the same for you.
..::bella vita::..por_que_no on November 17th, 2015 08:19 pm (UTC)
Yeah, any flat tab stems are going to be pokey if your cervix is off to one side. I have a MamiCup now since my second Si-Bell stem busted (I can't really bear down effectively so I have to PULL like heck on any stems and the Si-Bell couldn't take it) but I have to be VERY careful about the side of the cup that I insert so that the flatter side of the stem is flush against the side of my vaginal wall. Otherwise all I will feel is pokepokepoke. Same with my iCare. If they put a round stem on the Mami (like what the Rainbow has) and made it half a hair softer it'd be perfect.
onlyforever10onlyforever10 on November 17th, 2015 08:37 pm (UTC)
Thanks! I actually just bought a Rainbow cup (size 1) after looking at the sizing chart and comparing to my Ladycups. I got 2 day shipping on Amazon and my period starts this week, so that was mainly why..ha. But I definitely want to look into the Si-Belle and Fleur as well.
..::bella vita::..por_que_no on November 19th, 2015 03:31 pm (UTC)
I actually love my L Rainbow and would love it more if it had a bit more capacity. But the stem is the closest thing to perfect I've had on any of my cups. I just wish it were a few cm longer on some days.
Serpent: neutralserpent_849 on November 17th, 2015 11:08 pm (UTC)
if you want something a little larger than your small but not so wide, look at the large cuplee and meluna too :) (meluna soft is similar in stiffness to what you have so far, softer than the diva though)