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28 July 2015 @ 11:27 pm
Hello,
Has anyone successfully used a cup with a prolapse? I have a mild cystocele after having 2 babies, and I am currently trying the Sckoon Cup large with the stem cut off. I am inserting as far as I can, but it doesn't go up very far passed my pubic bone, and then sinks during the day, especially when using the bathroom or moving around a lot. I was able to use it all day yesterday even though it sat very low and slightly uncomfortable. That was my first day of my period which is lighter. Today, a heavier day, the cup would not stay in place and kept falling to the point I was uncomfortable and afraid it would fall out completely. Because of it falling, I reinserted 3x today, and it was about 1/3 full each time. I am not sure if my problems are from inexperience (this is about my 4th cycle trying the cup), a bad fit, or because of my pelvic floor issue. I know someone with a cystocele who successfully uses a cup, but they did say it hangs out a little but they deal with it. I feel that I need it to stay in place for me to benefit from using it. This person suggested trying a shorter cup, but I don't know which cup would be shorter or if that would help? Also, is it possible my vaginal wall gets stretched out after a day of successful use? I am trying to understand why I can get one day of semi-successful use each time I try, but the subsequent days fail. One more question (sorry so long!) Sometimes after the cup has been in for a while and feels fine, all of the sudden I start to have intense internal cramping pain like the cup has shifted into a bad position maybe? When I go to remove it, it does not feel like it moved, yet reinserting makes the pain go away. What could be good on?
Thanks for any help!
 
kabilikabili on July 29th, 2015 10:25 am (UTC)

I don't have prolapse, but I actually think the cup could serve like a pessary for you, so I do think you may be able to use a cup successfully despite the prolapse. As for the problems on the heavier day, I'd bet your cervix is lower those days. There are size charts linked here on LJ that you could use to help find a shorter cup, which may work for those heavier/ low cervix days.

Kai: 2Cupskuradi8 on July 29th, 2015 12:20 pm (UTC)
The Sckoon is already a fairly short cup. Read the section about strengthening your pelvic floor at http://kuradi8.livejournal.com/ and if all else fails, try Instead Softcups. Despite what they say, they ARE reusable -- for as long as you trust them which could be just a cycle or many. Because they are messier to use than cups, I find it easiest to alternate two. Remove one, insert another, then wash the first for next time.
gem20 on July 31st, 2015 06:16 am (UTC)
Thank you, I found this link very helpful. The part about how strengthen the pelvic floor is contradictory to what my pelvic floor physical therapist said though, that's interesting. I was told that squats are contraindicated for prolapse since it pushes everything downward. However, the part about finding the cervix and angling the cup, including the French diagram were eye opening. I think this might be part of my problem. I was able to find my cervix but I can't remember now which wall it sits on, front or back. I felt it before, but because it was not at the end like I thought it should be, I thought it couldn't be my cervix. Now I know better. If I angle the cup with the top pointing towards the front vaginal wall, the bottom of the cup, including the stem nub, sit on the back vaginal wall, and I can feel it while waking around. Is that normal to feel it or does that mean bad positioning? Is this why some have to trim the stem, since it doesn't really point directly toward the opening of the vagina, but more toward the vaginal wall? Does the angle I described sound correct? Thank you so much for the helpful info!
Jennnakedfaery on July 30th, 2015 09:05 am (UTC)
I had a mild cystocele for several years and just didn't find cups usable. The Skoon is too soft in my experience as well. A firmer cup may stay in place better, but may also be less comfortable.
gem20 on July 31st, 2015 05:45 am (UTC)
Did your cystocele resolve, if you don't mind me asking? If so, how? I am currently seeking physical therapy but have only had about 5 appointments so far so progress is slow. Are you able to use a cup now or before that?
Jennnakedfaery on July 31st, 2015 06:28 am (UTC)
Yes it did. I had biofeedback therapy. It took until my son was almost 3 but it's completely gone now. I use a MeLuna XL :-)