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After my issues with leaking for seemingly no reason and the disaster I had at work this morning, I need some encouragement to keep trying with the cup. I'm certainly liking my Ruby Cup better than my Diva cup (even after enlarging the holes), but I have trouble getting them to pop open fully around my cervix rather than partially or against it. I tried one insertion tip for popping open using the punch-down fold (since I get the crooked cup problem with the c-fold) but I couldn't get it to open at all until I pulled it out and it snapped open, flinging blood all over the walls of the public restroom at work. After that horror story (including apologizing to my boss for my extended bathroom break) I just want to give up and not have to figure out the leaking issue either. Any encouragement or tips would be appreciated.
P.S. A detailed definition of residual slobber vs leaking would also be very much appreciated.
Sarcasticia Nitpickersontisiphone on April 16th, 2015 05:42 pm (UTC)
How long have you been at it? It can take some months to get the hang of it. This isn't different from other menstrual products though - do you remember misplacing pads and bleeding on your jeans or stabbing yourself in the vagina with tampons? :) For dealing with work, a possible solution is to just use backup if you need it and try not to change the cup at work. If your cup is high enough capacity it can stay put for up to 12 hours, so it should be fine.

Re residual slobber vs. leaking, residual slobber is clear or pinky and... erm, gloopy, I guess? Leaking is definitely blood. The main difference is volume; residual slobber is mainly just what might dribble out around a tampon, while if you're leaking it'll be more.

Edited at 2015-04-16 05:42 pm (UTC)
..::bella vita::..por_que_no on April 16th, 2015 05:48 pm (UTC)
What tisiphone said :) Also, with slobber, I usually don't feel like I would necessarily need to wear a backup liner (I do anyway because I like to take care of my clothes and I am in close 1 on 1 contact with people as part of my work, so being stinky is not attractive either). With actual leaking you'd need something.
trejoytrejoy on April 16th, 2015 05:51 pm (UTC)
I am with you about the extended bathroom break. Early on I was embarrassed by how long it took me!

If you haven't read Kuradi's post HERE check out the "leaking" section.

Residual slobber is like spotting, not massive leakage, due to any flow that clings to vaginal walls not collected as cup is emptied or reinserted. Many use a liner as a backup, I just wear dark colored undies.

Leaking can occur for a variety of reasons: if you miss your cervix entirely there will be almost no flow in cup with immediate leakage, if your cervix takes up room in your cup leaks won't occur immediately but your cup will not be full when leaks happen (and you feel mystified).

Making certain an airhole is in the center of the fold helps the cup open fully. Even with slightly firmer cups, if I don't pay attention to where I've positioned the airholes getting the cup to open may be a struggle. Also, you might try facing the fold the opposite direction (e.g. down instead of up or left instead of right).

I do encourage you not to give up. The Ruby is a good cup, not too firm but not too soft. I believe you'll be able to get along with it.
Cenamenhoneypie3251 on April 16th, 2015 06:07 pm (UTC)
When you are inserting your cup do you let the cup open a little closer to the vaginal opening or do you let it open higher? For me I open my cup when it's just past the vaginal opening because if I do it up past the pubic bone area it won't open for me so it just sits close to my cervix, so it's like pouring a drink on the side of the cup. For me my cervix needs to sit in the cup. I hope this makes some sense and maybe this may help some.

Oh one thing I've done before if the cup doesn't fully open is to bring down the cup a little bit but not remove it, kinda like a plunger method.
tkamockingbird on April 16th, 2015 06:46 pm (UTC)
That's awful that you had to deal with something like that at work! Work alone can be stressful enough!

I have been using menstrual cups only for three cycles so I can't help to much on technique. I guess my advice would be to use back up while you use the cup so you don't have to worry about the cup when your at work. Or only use it at home untill you get the hang of it. I could only imagine what kind of anxiety you might get from it when you are at work.

Also, what do you mean by your cup being tilted? My cup is always tilted to the side where my cervix is. I feel like it might be normal if your cervix is set to one side. But I might be wrong :)
sam_schwasam_schwa on April 16th, 2015 09:42 pm (UTC)
This is officially my third cycle, so we're in similar boats as far as collecting information and getting used to everything. When my cup is "tilted" it's more so not fully open because part of the rim is against my cervix instead of around it. The tricky part is that if I feel around the bottom half of the cup, it's round and "open" but if I REALLY check, it's not open at the top. I'd be interested in knowing if anyone else runs into this.
Kai: 2Cupskuradi8 on April 16th, 2015 07:10 pm (UTC)
Have you skimmed/read this yet? http://kuradi8.livejournal.com/
sam_schwasam_schwa on April 16th, 2015 09:44 pm (UTC)
Thank you all! I really appreciate the information and support!