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02 February 2015 @ 04:12 pm
Hi everyone,

I am wondering if this wonderful community might be able to help me find a second cup that will work for me better than my first did. The first cup I ever purchased was the Small Classic Meluna with Ring Stem. I thought (and really hoped!) that this cup would be the one for me, but after two months of frequent attempted use, I think it's time to give up and search for one that's a better fit. I've spent a long time trying to sift through comparison charts and videos, but am just getting overwhelmed and confused. Thus, I come to this community to see if anyone might be able to offer their ideas/suggestions for what cup I should purchase :). Things I'm looking for in my second cup cup:

Narrow Width
I would like as narrow a cup as possible. I am a 20 year old virgin with apparently relatively strong PC/Vaginal Wall muscles, a narrow and not very stretchy vagina, and a somewhat high cervix. As others have mentioned experiencing, I've had a very hard time getting my finger up/around the sides of the cup during insertion and removal, as there's simply not a lot of space up there and not much stretching going on. Side note: It has also impossible to get my finger next to/above the rim during removal, because regardless of how low down the cup is, my fingers are just too short to reach the actual rim itself.

Firm Texture
I would like a firm-ish cup to aid with insertion and removal. As I said, my vagina is pretty narrow and my muscles apparently pretty strong. The Classic Meluna was way too soft for me.. It was a struggle to get it to open inside, even once I bought a hole punch and expanded and added holes (which helped, but not quite enough). The cup never came near to "popping open" on its own, regardless of which trick I used (and I tried all of them!) Additionally, removal was made extremely difficult due to the softness of the cup. Because it was so soft, pressing the sides/pinching the bottom of the cup did not break the suction or affect the actual rim at all. I think a firmer cup that reacts to my pinching/pressing the sides more dramatically would be really helpful for breaking the seal during removal. I wonder if the material (TPE) has something to do with this, as someone mentioned that it is much less springy than regular silicone.

Length: Not Sure
The Small Meluna seems to be pretty short. I never actually wore it for more than a few minutes, so I'm not sure how far it would travel up into my vagina with regular wear. Seeing as I can't reach my cervix at any point in my cycle, it seems my vagina is pretty long. Maybe something with a length similar to the Small Lunette would be good. Or a shorter cup that has a longer stem would be fine too.

Price: As Cheap as Possible
I'm on a tight budget! :)

Thanks everyone for your help! Sorry I wrote so much, but I figure if I'm going to post, I may as well go for it. Thanks for your help in advance! P.S.- I'm located in the US, if that's relevant to your suggestions.
Kai: 57vs40mmkuradi8 on February 2nd, 2015 09:16 pm (UTC)
LOL! A length somewhere between a Meluna Short and a Diva. Well, that's like 90% of the cups. There are size and capacity charts at http://sizecharts.livejournal.com/ If you don't like them, there are others at the Community FAQ. Use what you know about the way the cup you have now fits you to determine what dimensions and shape you want next. But I don't think it's the cup. I think you just haven't gotten the hang of it yet. I'll betcha after you figure out your next cup, this one you have will fit you just fine after all.
flowergirl94flowergirl94 on February 2nd, 2015 09:21 pm (UTC)
Haha good point about the length. I've checked out all the charts multiple times, and I was just getting overwhelmed with trying to match the most updated length, width, and firmness ratings to one another. I figured I'd post hear to see if anyone had any ideas off the top of the their heads (or any similar past experiences) to make things a little easier. But of course if no one does, I'll sift through the charts again. Thanks for your advice :).
..::bella vita::..por_que_no on February 2nd, 2015 10:05 pm (UTC)
It sounds like a Diva 1 would actually be a good fit for you (firmish and long)...IIRC the Diva and Lunette are the same length when you include the stem. Only thing you'd want to keep in mind is that if your pubic bone sits really high like mine does, it might pinch the base of a long cup so you lose some capacity/seal, and then you'd be better off with a short cup + long stem combination (like Lunette or Si-Bell). There are always tons of Divas for sale at mc_sales because they are too long for most but everyone tries them as a starter cup anyway. My favorite cups are all way softer than you'd want because my bladder is picky but I sympathize about the high cervix!
tobilei on February 3rd, 2015 01:51 am (UTC)
Just chiming in here because I have similar issues (minus the no kids thing, but I have a ridiculously high cervix and get a whole lot of bladder pressure from larger cups so they need to be narrower). The small diva cup is great, I love it, but it's pretty soft. Softer than the large one is and softer than the yuuki soft.

Yuuki is another brand that is pretty long. The small is a narrow 4.1cm, it has a pretty long stem on it and you can get it in soft, medium (called economic) and firm. The firm is pretty firm. I never had a problem getting it to open (but the soft opens pretty easily too).
elisamba on February 3rd, 2015 01:04 pm (UTC)
What capacity do you want? Light flow, heavy flow?

I would probably recommend the small Fleurcup for a light flow, it meets a lot of your criteria (cheap, springy, long stem and great grips). The small Organicup is great, too, but more expensive.

For a heavier flow, I would recommend the small Gaia (springy, long, good capacity, soft yet poppy, it always opens for me, medium width). The stem is pretty useless but it is so long, it sits perfectly where I can grab the base, pinch, and release the suction for removal.

If you could somehow order it, I wonder if the small Inciclo would be tailor-made for you? It is the narrowest-longest cup (I hope you understand what I mean) but you would have to e-mail customer service to order outside of Brazil, you can't do it online. I don't have any personal experience with it, though, to know how springy the silicone is. We had a recent comment here from someone very satisfied with her Inciclo. Edited to add the link to that thread http://menstrual-cups.livejournal.com/3387504.html

Edited at 2015-02-03 01:08 pm (UTC)
..::bella vita::..por_que_no on February 3rd, 2015 03:38 pm (UTC)
Well speak of the devil. Someone's getting rid of a Diva Small: http://mc-sales.livejournal.com/226884.html
flowergirl94flowergirl94 on February 5th, 2015 01:18 pm (UTC)
Thanks everyone for your input and comments. It was all really helpful!

Based on your suggestions and some further research, I think I've decided to go with the Small Yuuki cup. It seems to get very good reviews, seems a good size/length, and definitely seems to have the firmness I need.

Now the only question is...Should I get the Economic (Medium firmness, apparently equal to the Meluna Sport at 50shore), or Classic (Highest firmness, apparently referred to as ''the rock'' at 60shore). I watched some great comparisons between the various firmness-es here: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC6dSgSmtmowzuvgedXa7z8w , and according to these videos, the Small Yuuki Soft is actually almost comparable to the Medium Meluna Sport...So I'm wondering if getting the Small YuukiEeconomic (10shore above the Soft, and thus 10 shore above the Meluna Sport) might be enough for me... I only hesitate to go all out and get the Small Yuuki Classic because some people have reported experiencing pain with super firm cups during removal.

Do any of you have experience with either of these Yuuki's? Any thoughts?
trejoytrejoy on February 6th, 2015 06:35 am (UTC)
Well, I like softer cups, so there was no way I could have used anything firmer than the soft Yuuki. It was as springy as a large Lunette, IMO. I can't imagine what a firmer Yuuki might feel like!