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Hello. It's my first time ever trying a silicone cup. I just tried out the economic yuuki large.
I've been using only melunas with a ring stem for nearly two years.

Well, I find I can't get the cup out (yuuki) for the life of me. I can't even rotate the cup or even pull it down (too much muscle I guess). It is jammed.
I can't get a grip on the stem because it's slippery and hollow. How can I get it out? Surely others have this problem? It's just too slippery and flimsy. How can I make this cup work for me? I'm thinking of getting a towel on my fingers to get it out. Because I can't get it out at all. I always have problems with cup removal but now this is just insane. How people get a grip on these stems to pull it out...I don't know! What do I do?

The second thing is I'm finding the cup sore for me. I don't know why when I have it tilting towards my anus. It shouldn't hurt? It feels like pressure in there as well. These are things I had happen when I was new to cups!

Note: I am a virgin with a big bone above my vagina and so much skin around my vagina and inside it's so small and very hard to get a cup in and pop open in (some reason after two years I can't master cups to open).
I had not previously used my meluna xl because I couldn't get it out...but now my vagina will let it out, so I was thinking my hymen HAD to stretch by now. At some times my vaginal opening seems wider and there seems to be so much less muscle inside. (No little about my anatomy...)

Anyhow...what do I do? Are there any non flimsy cups? The ring stem on my melunas are great for breaking the intense suction and I can keep my fingers on it. I had hopes for my first ever cup in two years and now I can't even get it out! I was nearly going to buy a luvurbody cup too and that has an even smaller stem! Maybe a firm cup would work for me?
 
Regina Phalangethunder_pants on January 20th, 2015 04:11 pm (UTC)
If you bear down, like you are pushing out a bowel movement, will it come down to where you can get it out?
Cuppermoonserenity92 on January 21st, 2015 04:35 am (UTC)
I ended up getting it out. I kept it in as long as possible because I was expecting my period and wanted my body to 'adjust' to the cup. However, about an hour I couldn't take the pain anymore. The stem was also jabbing me downstairs. Was very sore!!!
To get it out I used the sleeve of what I was wearing over my hands and pulled it down. Was so hard to remove. Couldn't believe how tight it was. Eventually got it out and boy the relief!

Edited at 2015-01-21 04:35 am (UTC)
titaniumtrinitytitaniumtrinity on January 20th, 2015 06:46 pm (UTC)
I have a diva, and I'm not sure how the firmness compares with the yuuki, but it does have a hollow stem. Does your stem have grip rings? I will usually grab onto the stem with my nails in order to pull it down far enough to grip the base. Also, I will try to work my fingers in farther right away and pinch the base. Sometimes that works and sometimes it doesn't.
Cuppermoonserenity92 on January 21st, 2015 04:36 am (UTC)
Think it does. Can't remember. I don't find the grip rings helpful. Was thinking of buying the Diva too. Surely there are some non stem cups other than meluna and the femmycycle??? o-o
titaniumtrinitytitaniumtrinity on January 21st, 2015 06:29 pm (UTC)
Yeah those are the only two I can think of with ring stems. There are others with flat tab stems, but I have no experience with them. And some like the Sckoon have super flexible stretchy stems, which are supposed to be comfortable but its seems like that would make removal even harder than with a hollow stem. What's the point of a long stem if grabbing onto the end of it just stretches it and doesn't' pull the cup down?
trejoytrejoy on January 20th, 2015 07:35 pm (UTC)
No matter which cup I use, I generally have to grab the bottom of the cup itself to break the seal. Squat like a sumo wrestler, dry your fingers as best as you can and once you get a grip on the stem, pinch it like crazy (it really takes finger strength sometimes!) then work it back and forth until it is far enough down to grab the base of the cup.
Cuppermoonserenity92 on January 21st, 2015 04:37 am (UTC)
It's hard for me to do that because I can't get my fingers up there. I have to use my index and pointer fingers on my right hand and that's all I can really get up there. It's incredibly awkward.I do have a large belly and legs and I think that also is an issue. I suspect my cup can 'ride up' a bit as well. Then there's all that skin around my vayjayjay which makes it awkward as well

Edited at 2015-01-21 04:39 am (UTC)
elisamba on January 20th, 2015 09:35 pm (UTC)
This is a great video by three young ladies giving their tips for painless removal http://youtu.be/LljkmNl8qdc Actually Precious Star's whole channel is great and full of tips.

Squat, bear down, keep your jaw slack, breathe like you're doing yoga lol. If you start tightening up, or the cup slides back up, pause and wait to be relaxed again. You might want to dry off your fingers with toilet paper between tries.

Maybe forget the stem. Get a firm pinch on the base, as far up as possible. (My personal trick is to insert my thumb first as far as I can). Keep the cup pinched (very important) as you gently ease it out. Keep bearing down and try pulling the cup on a sharp angle to one side. You will hear air enter it and feel the seal break; at this point it may also collapse into a loose c-fold, and is easier to remove that way.

Once the seal is broken, some people "rock" the cup out side to side, others ease out one side of the rim then the other. Don't get discouraged, the first removal is the toughest, then it quickly gets easier! :)

PS Sounds like the bone is your pubic bone, completely natural.

Edited to add: are you on your period, or is this a dry run? You can wait a while for it to fill more if you are on your period, that will cancel out the suction more.

Edited at 2015-01-20 09:38 pm (UTC)
Cuppermoonserenity92 on January 21st, 2015 04:38 am (UTC)
I was on my dry run. I've watched that video before and have not had any success with any of the tips shown. I just have to be pretty aggressive with myself otherwise it won't come out. I think virginity plays a part.
trejoytrejoy on January 21st, 2015 07:19 am (UTC)
Dry runs are notoriously challenging, since the cervix is generally higher than during period.
elisamba on January 21st, 2015 07:41 am (UTC)
This ^^ You also have 100% suction because there is no blood to cancel it out. Think of a soap dish stuck on a shower wall with a suction pad, and what would happen if some water got behind the suction pad... which is easier to get off the wall.
elisamba on January 21st, 2015 07:45 am (UTC)
Even my long soft cup is super hard to take out when it isn't full, like when I put it in anticipating the start of my period. The easiest in those cases for me is the large Fleur, since the stem is long, firm, and has excellent grip lines. But maybe just get through your learning curve with your Yuuki first. If it was hurting you, it probably wasn't fully inserted. Do you know about the LJ sizecharts, to compare cup capacities and dimensions? Maybe Meluna to Yuuki was too big a jump for you?
tobilei on January 21st, 2015 01:58 am (UTC)
I have a large yuuki soft and it's terribly slippery I agree! I find what trejoy said about sumo squatting while bearing down usually brings it down low enough to grab the base of the cup. Once you break suction they come out more easily. And also as stated in their post, I find I usually have to grab the cup rather than use the stem.

If you can at least get the stem in reach sometimes a bit of loo paper to grab it with helps with the slippery-ness.
Cuppermoonserenity92 on January 21st, 2015 04:39 am (UTC)
I ended up using the sleeve of what I was wearing. Boy was it hard to do it. Just couldn't get fingers up there