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20 December 2014 @ 05:25 pm
i'm new to this. I never had heavy periods and did fine ith tampons my whole life. But recently developed abnormal uterine bleeding. I am seeign a GYN to try to resolve the issue. In the mean time, still bleeding most days.

I tried a Diva (size 2) since they are available in stores. It's uncomfortable. I tried turning it inside out and that seems to help. I also found the MeLuna website and they have this size calculator which said I should be a S or M. I decided on the Medium which is about a centimeter shorter than the Diva and a few mm smaller diameter. It is much more comfortable and easier to insert and remove.

But I wore the MeLuna (m) to a spin class today and it turned sideways inside during the workout and leaked!

I am extremely frustrated and keep reading everything about these things on teh web. It probalby does not help that I have been having a period, sometimes heavier than I ever was aware was humanly possible, for 22 weeks straight.

I keep reading how it is supposed to sit low in the vagina and I see the package insert drawings and they show the cup sitting so far below the cervix. That is totaly not the case with me for either the Diva or the Meluna. It is up there as far as it can go. IN fact it's wedged right up under the cervix. If I am not really careful and angle the Diva just right sort of front to back, it will be inserted all the way past my cervix. If I tried to make it sit low like these drawings look, either one would be protruding outside my vagina! (is this a situation where some male illustrator is making the drawings for a woman's product???)

Should I try a shorty? Has anyone tried one and what did you think? How are you built that you thought a shorty was right for you? I didn't think of myself as particularly petite, but MeLuna seems to think I'm a candidate for the small! I"m 5'2", medium frame, only 10 pounds over my ideal weight. I am (or was before this period fiasco) an avid exerciser and did many very strenuous activities and have been a weightlifter for decades. I do not think low pelvic muscle tone is the problem. I'm almost wondering if the muscles are too strong and too big?? And therefore pushing the things so far up inside?

Has anyone had success with a certain cup during exercise, especially lifts like squats and lunges and core stability?
Kai: 2Cupskuradi8 on December 20th, 2014 10:47 pm (UTC)
Of course the MeLuna calculator is going to recommend a MeLuna product. ;o)

Skim/Read this http://kuradi8.livejournal.com/ to debunk some of the misinformation in the instructions and to pick up other helpful hints. It also has a link to one of the many size charts. If you don't like that one, there are others at the Community FAQ.
rudy3 on December 21st, 2014 03:46 pm (UTC)
thanks! that's a good link. I kind of figured most people would want the cup pretty much up to the cervix for both comfort and a good seal. I kind figured those drawings had to be done to only apply to some sort of Amazon Woman - suggesting *that* much space between the cervix and a large cup like a Diva!
Kai: 2Cupskuradi8 on December 21st, 2014 03:49 pm (UTC)
PS - My GUESS is that your bleeding is caused by fibroids. Mine too. They are not (quote-unquote) "bad" but they are inconvenient (a royal PITA) and could complicate things if/when you want to have children. In the mean time, they can be managed by taking hormones and occasional D&Cs. My Gyno was against ablation (basically a mild cauterization of the uterus) because she said it often masks important symptoms until it's too late if things are starting to go "wrong."

The good news is that once you find a menstrual cup that fits you properly, it will be a godsend. In my case and probably in yours too, we never know whether we will just spot or gush. A cup with a decent capacity can handle whatever our bodies throw at us.

While not an ideal fit, your Diva can probably suffice as an "emergency" cup that you carry in your purse. The medium MeLuna, however, has proven to be poor fit.

My suggestions on cups to consider:
(Width x Length)
46x52 -- Large Fleurcup -- blunt based.
46x52 -- Large Lunette -- pointy based.
45x50 -- Large Sckoon -- blunt based.
47x44 -- XL Shorty MeLuna -- kinda in between.

You might also consider trying Instead Softcups. Despite what they tell you, they are re-useable for as long as you trust them, not just one use or one cycle like their packaging says. My personal experience with them is that they are more reliable for light/spotting days than heavy. And that it's easiest to alternate two because they can be messy. Take one out, put the other in, wash the one you took out for next time.

Edited to fix typos.

Edited at 2014-12-21 03:53 pm (UTC)
rudy3 on December 21st, 2014 04:09 pm (UTC)

I'm about to turn 47. I have one fibroid about the size of a small grape that was seen on an US. A hysteroscopy showed the uterus to be "pristine" to use GYNs words - ? So doc said without a fibroid on the inside of the uterus, Mirena IUD is the first and easiest step to trying to resolve the bleeding. I've had one in for 8 weeks. Bleeding is certainly lighter, but still almost daily. GYN said it could take up to 6 months to see this lessen! Also, the string kind of freaks me out with the cups, but I think it'd be almost impossible for the cup to cause the thing to get pulled out.

yes, Instead Softcups are really comfortable, but I definately doubt they'd hold up to a "gush." The MeLuna M has held up fine for a whole day and a hike, but it seems anything engaging core and pelvic muscles are too much for it! I am curious about their firmer ones, and will look at pics to compare to the ones you suggest, esp the blunt ones. I was actually thinking of the Meluna shorty XL or L in the firm. The Diva inside out is almost as short as the MeLuna M I have, so I'll try that tomorrow for a workout.

edit: yeah, GYN said ablation might be a consideration if IUD doesn't work, but they have complications too. I guess I"ll cross that bridge if/when I have to

Edited at 2014-12-21 04:22 pm (UTC)
Kai: 2Cupskuradi8 on December 21st, 2014 09:47 pm (UTC)
I'm 10 years older than you and had the Peri-Menopause from Hell thanks to fibroids. I hope you don't go through what I did. I bled for over a year straight and then had some uber-heavy stray "surprise!" periods afterward. I think that has finally (---please!---) shut off but lemme tell ya, my cups saved me from disaster MANY times. I had dozens of "kiss-my-cup" days that I wouldn't have been prepared with enough tampons and/or I wouldn't have had the opportunity to change them as often as I would have needed. The extra capacity of cups really paid off for me on some days. Edited to add that I still carry my "emergency" Diva just in case.

For what it's worth, I also second por-que-no's recommendation of a large Fleur as one to compare and consider, especially as a heavy days cup. Otherwise, you can probably make do with Insteads and your inside out Diva. But if you want another MeLuna, they "run small" so don't be afraid of the XL. It's not as large as it sounds.

Edited at 2014-12-21 09:47 pm (UTC)
..::bella vita::..por_que_no on December 21st, 2014 03:31 am (UTC)
Yeah, all those illustrations about the cup sitting low are BS. They WILL all ride up to the cervix (which is a problem if, like me, you have the World Trade Cervix). From your account of the Meluna turning sideways, I think you may benefit from a wider cup (which will also give you better capacity), or you might even try something blunt-bottomed like the Fleur. You may want to stick with something medium to firm since you probably have great PC muscles. I do cardio but no weights or anything and need soft cups due to a finicky bladder, but after getting larges in my Si-Bell and Rainbow to deal with increased bleeding, I've found that I often have a bit of an issue popping them open.
rudy3 on December 21st, 2014 03:52 pm (UTC)
thanks! I am somewhat crazily-drawn to the MeLuna website since they are the only one i found with the size calculator and 8 different sizes! plus all available in different squishinesses. I think the MeLuna medium is really small and their own site says they err on the side of comfort. I'll probalby stick with it most times since I may be needing this thing daily for a while til the bleeding issue is resolved. If these things were cheaper, I'd totallly buy them all and try them all out, especially the shorty L or XL and the firmer one, but not really wanting to spend any more money at this point since the goal is to just make it a few years till menopause for me. But I"m goign to try the Diva tomorrow when I workout since it is so large I figure it's unlilely to move around. It is a liittle difficult and freaky for me to get it out. WHile the Meluna is so small it's easy. I could see it not holding up to heavy flow for many women.
..::bella vita::..por_que_no on December 23rd, 2014 02:51 am (UTC)
If you'd like to save some $ check out mc_sales--many users sell various cups that didn't work out for them, etc, and they're much more cost effective: http://mc-sales.livejournal.com/

And particularly if you only have a couple years left, once that ship sails, you could turn around and sell your old cups to a new user :) (I don't suppose you have any daughters in the market for cups? If they're not weirded out by the idea that you used it previously it could be nice to keep one around for a daughter)
Gluppit the prawling strangles, thereelettaria on January 3rd, 2015 04:26 pm (UTC)
I've just ordered a pair of Shorties in S and L, and will report back once I've tried them out. The Shorty L will actually have about the same capacity as the regular S, be aware. I have a low/dangly cervix, light periods, and need my cups to be as small and soft as possible due to pelvic pain issues, so hopefully these will be spot on for me. At present I'm using the Mini S when I can get away with it and the regular S when I'm bleeding more heavily (for values of "more heavily" that probably translates as "really light" for a lot of other people, I suspect).