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03 December 2014 @ 02:54 pm
Hi all!

I'm a pretty new cup user. I'm also a distance runner. I have a Diva Cup (size 2) and have used it for 2 cycles now. On my first cycle, I had some learning curve experiences with leakage, I think due to having it poorly inserted/not fully opened. But I did go for a long-ish run without leakage issues. The cup seemed to ride lower while I was running than it did when I was just sitting or walking, but it didn't feel like it was so low it would fall out or anything. I did have some irritation from the stem, which trimming seems to have helped.

On my second cycle with the cup, I seemed to learn how to insert it better and ensure it was fully opened. I had fewer problems with leaking. However, during one of my runs in particular, it felt like the cup was so low it may actually come out. And there was leaking. I know that my cervix could have been in a different position, contributing to the cup being lower. But I'm also wondering about my core muscles being engaged, essentially causing me to "bear down" enough to push the cup partially out. The position of the cup during this run seemed similar to when I am intentionally bearing down to bring the cup lower when I'm removing it.

Do any other cup users who are athletes have feedback on this? Would wearing the cup inside out to make it shorter help? Would I still push it out? Would a firmer or softer cup help? I know I could wear a pad as a backup for leakage, but pads while running are generally unpleasant. And I actually got motivated to buy a cup (after considering one for some time) after a particularly bad fail of both a tampon and a pad during marathon training. :/ So I'd like for my cup to be a good solution! :)

Thanks to anyone who can share thoughts, suggestions, experiences!
..::bella vita::..por_que_no on December 3rd, 2014 08:07 pm (UTC)
A lot of runners report that they unintentionally bear down while running. That could be what's happening to you. Actual runners here may have better advice though...
Kai: 2Cupskuradi8 on December 3rd, 2014 08:52 pm (UTC)
Flip it inside out to shorten it. :o)

Edited to add: Skim/Read through this to see if there are other helpful hints. http://kuradi8.livejournal.com/

Edited at 2014-12-03 09:39 pm (UTC)
yayforcupsyayforcups on December 3rd, 2014 10:46 pm (UTC)
Unfortunately I'm not athletic in the slightest, but I have read that the diva in particular feels like it will fall out when running. I think its to do with its shape and that its long. My sckoon has a flatter bum so it's better supported in place, and its really soft which adds comfort plus the large has a 30ml capacity which may be helpful in a marathon. Many have noted good results during exercise with the Meluna Sport, but ill leave that to an owner of one to comment :) sorry youre having problems.
xquizite_insomxquizite_insom on December 3rd, 2014 11:58 pm (UTC)
The only sports that affect my cup use are BJJ and Crossfit. In rolling I have crushed and dislodged regular cups. While crossfitting, I have had the cup move. Do not know if it was the sprint or back squat that was responsible. Both times I was glad to have had on a pad back up with a pair of compression pants and Instead softcups in my training bag for days that my period pops up unexpectedly.

I love Instead Soft Cups because they are worn differently and much higher up than traditional menstrual cups. For me the only downside on my heavy day is that the capacity is ridiculously low. I can get about 2 hours. When training, that is usually not an issue as I can get breaks to empty and reinsert.

It was mentioned to try turning your cup inside out to shorten of it so less of it will sticks out. Hope you find a solution.
..::bella vita::..por_que_no on December 4th, 2014 04:25 pm (UTC)
Insteads aren't actually worn THAT much higher up, considering that any cup will migrate upwards and come to rest against your cervix. Unless what you mean by that is that the insteads will also hook behind the cervix. (If anything, and if the one time I tried the Instead says anything, part of the Instead sat lower inside me than the bodies of my cups do, because the diameter of the Insteads is so wide. And I have a high cervix)
xquizite_insomxquizite_insom on December 4th, 2014 05:11 pm (UTC)
Instead softcups are worn higher than a traditional menstrual cup. It's design is similar to a diaphragm. That is how the Instead softcup allows for vaginal intercourse. Inserted, the softcup should not be felt in your vaginal canal or it is not placed correctly.

Compare that to a traditional menstrual cup that for an average woman can be felt in the vaginal canal. The Instead softcup does seat higher.

Not sure what happened with the one time you tried the Instead softcup and it did not work for you. I used it exclusively for 3+ years until I got tired of the low capacity on heavy days and returned to traditional menstrual cups. As I mentioned in my previous post; I use the Instead softcup during sports where traditional menstrual cups have shifted despite an ideal fit otherwise.

m03m on December 5th, 2014 01:51 pm (UTC)
The bottom of a traditional cup is lower than the bottom of a softcup, the rim may very well be equally high. The rim of my Fleurcup sits around my cervix.

Just to clear up any possible confusion.
..::bella vita::..por_que_no on December 5th, 2014 06:55 pm (UTC)
What happened was I could feel the one side of the Instead quite low--lower than my pubic bone (keeping in mind that the Instead's rim is against the forward side of the vaginal wall, not facing up and back like with a traditional cup). Since the diameter when pressed together is something like 3" or more, you would need at least an 80mm high cervix to make that happen, and that's right about where mine is most of the time. So a 75mm diameter Instead would have one side of it sitting quite close to the entrance, assuming you are tight enough inside to squeeze the diameter of the cup almost completely, which I definitely was at the time. I actually didn't really leak when wearing it, but I didn't like the sensation of it being so close to the entrance (feeling like it was going to fall out).
xquizite_insomxquizite_insom on December 5th, 2014 08:23 pm (UTC)
Whoa, that sounds quite uncomfortable. With that experience, I see why you only tried once. Do you think the fact that you have a really high cervix made it difficult to place it correctly, hence the sensation of it wanting to fall out?

What you describe is definitely not the way it is designed to be worn. You are not supposed to feel it in the vaginal canal at all. Once inserted, I can do a finger sweep in the vagina and nothing can be felt. To remove it, I have to insert an entire finger past my knuckle to reach the rim and slide it out.

xquizite_insomxquizite_insom on December 4th, 2014 05:14 pm (UTC)
Oh, and the Instead softcups do not hook behind the cervix. As you stated. It is placed under the cervix, behind the pubic bone.
Perhaps that is why it did not work for you that one time.

Edited at 2014-12-04 05:29 pm (UTC)
Kathlynekathlyne on December 8th, 2014 04:47 pm (UTC)
I agree. The softcup is like a drawer. The front is supposed to hook behind the pubic bone. The cervix is inside the drawer.

I don't think por que no had it inserted properly. Without it tucked up behind the pubic bone I think it would leak easily.

And m03m is right--they all sit high...but the instead has a short baggie, and the menstrual cups, have, well, a cup.
dilyana_at on December 5th, 2014 07:49 am (UTC)
Hi, I am a figure skater and I also run on some trail competitions, but recently I haven't been running a lot and I haven't tried my new cups for running. With small fleur cup I had leaking. While skating with large lunette it leaked, I think it was squished by my muscles so I bought large meluna sport - it leaked only once on my heaviest day. But with the meluna I'm not absolutely sure it's open because it stays in an oval shape. So I bought large yuuki classic and I can't wait to try it. I think those cups are worth considering and maybe a cup with thicker rim would stay in place better, but I haven't tried that.