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Rozzie Jennifer Phipps
24 November 2014 @ 08:13 am
Hi everyone! I'm 24, just bought a menstrual cup last month cos I work long hours as a florist and was looking for an alternative to pads. So anyway I used it for the first time last night, pretty easy to slip and turn in although I accidentally pushed it in too far. I apparently have a marianas trench of a vagina because throughout the night it rode up even higher. It was a little uncomfortable and after a few failed attempts to pull the thing out I gave up and went to sleep.
This morning it's in even further. Before I could reach the tip of the stem without having to delve inside but now I have to dig down in there just to feel it. It's also starting to hurt a little when I sit so I think it bumped against my cervix.
So I've been messing with it, and I think I broke the seal because I pushed against the side and it's leaking now and coated my fingers but I can't get a good grip on it or reach far enough with my thumb and index to get it out. It's so slippery and so deep inside now that the stem is hard to grab. It's just kind of snuggled in there good.
Bearing down does nothing, it won't budge an inch and to make matters worse it's kind of veered off to the right a little making it even more difficult to get a grip on. My vag is getting swollen and starting to get too tender from all the probing so I'm giving up for now.
I don't have insurance and I really would love not to have to go to a doctor so I have a few questions.

1. My period is heaviest on the first and second day so can I just leave it in there until it gets heavy and possibly falls down enough to get a better grip on it's own or will it just make it more difficult to remove?

2. If it is attached to my cervix, will I injure myself trying to tug it out. And how can I know for sure if it did suction to my cervix and how big of a problem would that be.

3. Now that it started leaking does that mean the seal is definitely broken and it's just a matter of freeing it from my vaginal death grip?

I'm not really super worried about it at the moment, just wondering how long before I /should/ start to worry and if going to get it removed by a gyno is gonna be the last remaining option.
icanbmeicanbme on November 24th, 2014 05:20 pm (UTC)
I'm a relatively new cup user who hasn't had this problem but I've found coughing can momentarily lower my cup.
Rozzie Jennifer PhippsRozzie Jennifer Phipps on November 24th, 2014 05:53 pm (UTC)
Tried it, nothing D: It is seriously wedged
dhrachthdhrachth on November 24th, 2014 06:15 pm (UTC)
I have never had this problem so I don't have any advice from personal experience, but I have heard of people hooking it out with a spoon when all else has failed and really desperate.
Rozzie Jennifer PhippsRozzie Jennifer Phipps on November 24th, 2014 07:06 pm (UTC)
Really?? How does that work cos I am that desperate now
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Rozzie Jennifer PhippsRozzie Jennifer Phipps on November 24th, 2014 07:11 pm (UTC)
Okay I think I'm making things worse.
I definitely broke the seal because it's moving around inside of me and now it's stuck at an odd angle like this thing is gonna be upside down pretty soon. I tried to get it out again in the bath tub (turned it into the red sea) but I feel like I'm pushing it back further even though thats not possible at this point. It keeps turning and it's so deep I can't get more than one finger inside.
I tried pushing it against the walls to pull it down but it just hurts. It's too far in to try and hook my finger or nail on the rim and tug it down.
Ok now I'm starting to worry.
I have to leave for thanksgiving preparations and shopping and now I have this thing stuck up in me.
Someone mentioned using a spoon???? How does that work and will it fit if I can barely get one finger in? Am I going to yank all my organs out with it at this point????
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Sayga: cat-artemis runningsayga on November 24th, 2014 08:32 pm (UTC)
If it's leaking still, then you've likely broken the seal but your strong muscles may be holding it in. If it is not leaking, then hopefully it will get heavier and fall down.

It sounds like you've tried everything, but what about squatting or standing with one knee up on the toilet or side of the bathtub?

If you are going to try a spoon, maybe try a utensil with a rounded handle and not the spoon end. But I'd be nervous about that in case you can't tell where you're poking... It won't hurt you to leave it in a while, though. The cup, not the spoon. Maybe after walking around a while it will loosen up?

When my friend first started using cups at my recommendation, one day I got a call and she was trying to remove it for her first time and was panicked because she couldn't reach. After a while, she did manage to dislodge it with a combination of bearing down and feeling with her finger, and used one with a longer stem the next time. Good luck!
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..::bella vita::..por_que_no on November 24th, 2014 09:32 pm (UTC)
I've had to remove a too-short cup before--trust me it sucks, but you can do it eventually! I made the mistake of buying a Meluna when my cervix sometimes goes 80-85mm in. Soooo yeah. If your muscles are death gripping the cup, one kind of possibly unhealthy idea that still worked for me is, seriously, have a couple of drinks to loosen up your muscles. I literally took a couple of shots at like 1 in the afternoon and it loosened me up enough that, with the spoon trick and a lot of squatting/bearing down, I was able to get to the ring stem.

Once you're able to remove the Diva, it'll be time to think about getting a longer cup (I do believe it seems to be too short for you). Your options (in terms of total cup + stem length, not length of the cup itself, which to me matters less than just having something available to reach) include the Si-Bell, LuvUrBody, Lily, and the Chinese iCare. I currently alternate between a Si-Bell and a Rainbow (which tops out at 70mm total length, I think the same as your Diva, so you might disregard that one). I actually have my old Lily available if you decide you'd like one. Good luck!
Rozzie Jennifer PhippsRozzie Jennifer Phipps on November 24th, 2014 11:29 pm (UTC)
Tried the drink thing, it helped me ease the spoon in but it's too far to try and hook it, i think i only got to the middle of the cup and i can't fit both my fingers and the spoon without excruciating pain. There is blood everywhere and I'm getting panicky now.

Is it possible that my hymen closed over it??? It's always been tight I think I popped it open inside past my hymen and now it's just too big to come out. I've officially been at it the entire day so I think I need a doctor now.
Rozzie Jennifer PhippsRozzie Jennifer Phipps on November 24th, 2014 11:30 pm (UTC)
Will my body push it out itself eventually?? Does that happen?? Like I obviously /cannot/ get a good grip on the stem or barely reach it so will it eventually start to fall out to where I can get a better grip?? I can't keep trying for now, I'm swollen and agitated so it looks like another night with this thing.

Edited at 2014-11-25 12:04 am (UTC)
..::bella vita::..por_que_no on November 25th, 2014 01:04 am (UTC)
To address both your questions--I doubt your hymen would have stayed intact when inserting the thing, or if it did, it's stretchy enough that it shouldn't bother you that much trying to remove it. But if you have pain right around the entrance you might try spreading a bit of orajel (the stuff they put on babies who are teething) to numb it a little. The only problem with that is you will have less of an idea of where you're aiming.

One thing you could try in the morning--maybe in the shower, and definitely after you've used the bathroom--is just bearing down like you're super constipated or giving birth. The additional blood in the cup + the chance for any swelling to go down might help.
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Rozzie Jennifer PhippsRozzie Jennifer Phipps on November 25th, 2014 05:43 am (UTC)
Ok so despite how sore I am from all the clawing the entire day, I tried one more time to reach inside and now I can't even feel the stem at all. It's almost like it's tucked under...something I have no idea, it's so tight and slippery I can't tell what I'm touching and it's so tender and painful now. I can't find the stem and trying to feel the bulb hurts. I'm going to try to get to a gyno tomorrow because at this point I'm 99% sure I'm not going to be able to get it out myself.
pfongk on November 25th, 2014 07:27 am (UTC)
Have you tried having an orgasm? The reason I mention this is I had a similar problem and I was going to get hubby to get it out when he got back from work a couple of days later. I was laying there though with my vibe trying to get myself off as you do and as my vagina and uterus contracted from the orgasm it moved sideways which caused it to let go of a cervix and be able to get out.
..::bella vita::..por_que_no on November 25th, 2014 01:57 pm (UTC)
That's also an idea--having an orgasm will cause your vag to "tent" and widen, which might give you enough space to reach in there and may give enough space for the cup to right itself. However, it may also cause your cervix to go even higher, which became a serious issue when I was trying to remove my Meluna. But in this case it may help.
Rozzie Jennifer PhippsRozzie Jennifer Phipps on November 25th, 2014 06:10 pm (UTC)
It took the better part of an hour but I finally pulled the thing out and it hurt.

Squatting wasn't doing anything for me so I laid down on the floor on a towel with a firm pillow and the cup had indeed lowered overnight thanks to the weight of the blood so I was able to touch the bottom of the bulb fairly easily. I used my index and forefinger (i just cannot get my thumb in there) and slowly but surely pulled it down until I was able to grab and pinch the bottom of the bulb. The last tug was surprisingly painful, everyone in the house heard me yelp. It was messy too.

I'm not over cups, I'm going to look into the other brands you lovely people have recommended and try again. I always had an idea my cervix was high but wow. Anyway for the moment it's back to pads until I get over the last bit of trauma. Thanks everyone for all your recommendations and support I think I would have freaked out a lot more if not for all the rational ideas and suggestions oh my gosh
dhrachthdhrachth on November 25th, 2014 07:11 pm (UTC)
Congratulations. I'm sure having it out is a major relief.

Again, not something I've tried myself so I don't know about chaffing, but I've heard of someone buying a model with a ring stem and tying a string through the loop to make sure they have something to grab. Just something to consider if you give it another go.
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