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25 September 2014 @ 02:10 am
Hi everyone,

This is my first time posting to this community. I'm 20, NP, and a newbie cup user (classic medium MeLuna, ball stem). I also have a Paragard IUD, not that that's relevant to this question.
Anyway, I've had no issues getting the cup in and getting it to pop open, and it doesn't leak or anything. I think it's a good size, my cervix likes to change positions a lot even during my period...Sometimes it will be really high in the morning and in the afternoon it randomly decides to get low. It has a mind of its own. In terms of cup size, I like the size of the medium MeLuna. However, I get HORRIBLE cramps after it's been in there for about 15 minutes or so. I put it in earlier today, went to class (college student here) and after I got to class and sat there for a minute, the horrible cramps began. I have cramps from the IUD and generally having my period and stuff, but these were definitely worse. I kept shifting in my seat and could not get comfortable, took 3 Midols to no avail, and was generally miserable. I started getting a cold sweat and couldn't focus, and just sat there fidgeting in pain and discomfort for an hour. When I got back to my apartment, I took out the cup, and the cramps subsided significantly in a few minutes.

What could be the cause of these cramps? Size, stiffness? Should I look into getting a softer cup? I have been eyeing the Si-Bell cup and that seems like it could be a good option...Or should I just keep trying with my MeLuna and see if the "teething troubles" stop?
an idea is bulletproofelizalavelle on September 25th, 2014 09:37 am (UTC)
I actually had this happen for the first time last week. I have been a cup user for over a year, no issues. Last week I thought my cup had fully popped open but it hadn't. Instead it was almost popped open and was pressing against my cervix instead of sitting around it.

Not sure if it's the same thing but it could be a place to start. Now I am double checking when the cup is in to make sure it's popped open fully.
jenn4a on September 26th, 2014 08:00 am (UTC)
My first period of trying the meluna, it did feel Crampy and I constantly thought about it.
You know how you can't stop thinking about something new you just got? That's what it was like ;p
Since I couldn't concentrate on anything else, I worried if the cup was okay, and noticed pain.
Ever since then, I only notice discomfort when I think about it (possibly imagined pain), or if in tense.

I'm 20 about to be 21 in a month :D
My finger measures 3.25-3.5 inches and I cannot always reach my cervix, 8-9cm I think. My cervix usually goes higher on my periods! Also with the cup moving around, I notice that with both my fleurcup and meluna. I can squeeze them up and down inside... Especially when squaring or going to the bathroom. Is this what you mean? The only time I cannot move the cups around is when the seal is too firm that it won't allow me to; this usually ends up with me having to remove it by pressing against the rim, and that's high up!

The fleurcup leaks less for me, but the stem is irritating, I could file down the stem but it only bothers me for an hour or two. The medium meluna classic is the comfort one from beginning to removal, but leaks more!
I just got a naturcup that I haven't tried out yet. It's longer and slightly wider so I'm hoping it'll help.

You "probably" don't need a soft cup, nor a super firm one either :)

The melunas have 2 SMALL air holes and it can go badly for the cervix. In fact on both the cups I have, if the holes are blocked, my cervix will feel a hicky ;) OUCH
If there's no air for the cup to take up, it will definitely take up on the cervix; that's what really causes cramps for me! I've been getting better at it though and it's only happened 2 times with an instant removal following the pain.

All in all, don't be too worried. You can try a new cup if you think the cup is too tight around your cervix (cup being too narrow, or not enough air) or you can practice inserting it with different folds too.
Only fold that works for me is the pinch down fold.

If you have to reinsert, clean out the air holes each time.

If you want anymore specific advice, you can message me:)
I'm sure we have some similarities and would be glad to help you out.

One more thing, if you like the meluna shape, you can try a lg if it turns out the cup is too narrow.
If it's the air holes, you can carefully widen them.
If you're wanting to have more than one cup anyways, you should try to wait and see what you do and don't like about the meluna. Once you're more confident with the cup, the insertion and removal become much easier, don't forget experience too.

Sorry for choppy messages, on phone!
mardh93mardh93 on September 26th, 2014 02:21 pm (UTC)
Thank you so much for the detailed response! Oh and also, I'm turning 21 in a week so we have pretty close birthdays!

So I've actually had quite the eventful time since this post.. so get ready for the novel haha. I actually had to get my IUD removed yesterday. I had been bleeding ridiculous amounts, basically a constant waterfall of blood, and I almost fainted and had to lay on the bathroom floor until I could get up. Not to mention my cramps got so bad that no kind of pain killer was helping. And with the Paragard, it takes at least 6 months for periods to regulate and I was so miserable that I just went to my University Health Services and had a nurse pull it out. I know I should have probably stuck it out since I went through so much trouble to get it, but honestly I felt so horrible and it was getting in the way of my classes so I just decided what was best for me at this time, and I'm really glad it's gone. The cramps felt a lot better instantly, however I'm still basically hemorraging in my pants. So this is definitely not a typical period for me, which I'm guessing is why my experience with the cup was so crampy. I've even been getting cramps with tampons, which never happens (although they're not as intense as cup cramps). This whole experience has been a nightmare though, and I can't even sleep well because I'm afraid I'll leak everywhere with this crazy heavy flow, and I did leak this morning and had to wash my pj's in the sink. I feel like a pre-teen that is learning how to deal with her period all over again...oh well, I'll stop whining now, at least the IUD is out and hopefully my next period will be closer to what it normally is (which is heavy, but nothing near what I'm currently experiencing).

As for my cervix, I usually do have a pretty high cervix. My middle finger is 3 inches long and sometimes I can barely reach my cervix, especially during my period. My cervix has always been high during it, like you, but with the IUD it did some weird things and sometimes it would sit really low and I had NEVER gotten to feel my cervix that close before, so maybe it was just the IUD that was making my body do weird things. But generally, I'd say I have a high cervix, and I'd say that's going to be the case from now on since I don't have the IUD anymore. Also, I tried the MeLuna again after this post and I positioned it higher this time. I still felt cramps unfortunately, but I also realized that it's probably too short of a cup for me. I had a hell of a time trying to reach far up and grabbing it. This is also why I'm interested in the small Si-Bell since it's small but has a nice long stem that would really facilitate removal. And also the fact that it is softer is appealing to me.
Oh, and I've been careful about keeping the air holes clean, and like you the punch down fold was the only one that really worked for me with this cup.
Overall, I think I'm going to wait until my next period to try the cup again, that way I'll be dealing with something I'm familiar with instead of this monster, cramp-tastic nightmare. Then I'll practice a little more and if I feel like I need a different cup, I'll take the plunge then. For now, I'm going to stick to my pads and tampons :/

Thanks for the advice and sorry for the long whiny post! I've just had a rough week haha.
..::bella vita::..por_que_no on September 26th, 2014 11:09 pm (UTC)
Yikes! I'm glad you're feeling a bit better at least. The "blood waterfall" might actually be a really good time to keep trying with the cup, since it'll buy you more time between emptyings/changes than tampons would! When I was still getting the hang of cups, as long as I didn't have any other obligations that day, I'd actually have a drink or two to relax myself beforehand (like when I stupidly ordered the Meluna not realizing that my cervix is actually super high and took 3 hours to remove it).

If you want to try IUDs again, maybe a hormonal one would be better for your periods if you are good with hormones? Skyla or something? Something to ask your lady doctor about!
mardh93mardh93 on September 27th, 2014 01:23 am (UTC)
I have actually decided to keep trying with the cup because I was getting sick of changing so often and my cramps were a lot more manageable. And so far, I've done it 3 times successfully without leaks and also very minimal cramps, and it has been great! Nothing like it was when the IUD was in. I have been positioning it a little lower instead of hugging my cervix like a lot of people suggest, and it has actually been working well that way. Plus, if I positioned it hugging my cervix it would be way too difficult to reach it. So far, I've been liking it! I've been getting better at it, and I think I've got a good technique down. I'm so thankful that it hasn't really been giving me cramps, so I really think it was the IUD that was making me super sensitive.

And unfortunately the reason I got the Paragard was because I get bad side effects from hormones, and I had such a bad time on the pill that I swore I'd never put artificial hormones in my body again. I try to live a more natural and drug-free lifestyle (as much as I can, at least, and I can most definitely do without fake hormones!) Birth control is so frustrating, I just can't wait for there to be a male birth control option...I recently read an article about one coming out in 2017 (Vasalgel) so here's to hoping! But it's condoms for me and the boyfriend for now, and honestly we don't really mind them so I'm not too sad over the loss of an evil tenant in my uterus.
..::bella vita::..por_que_no on September 26th, 2014 01:33 pm (UTC)
I don't have an IUD so I can't be sure, but maybe the cup is bumping up along the strings or your cervix such that it's shifting the IUD and causing it to poke your uterus in an awkward way?
mardh93mardh93 on September 26th, 2014 02:23 pm (UTC)
I'm not sure, but I suspect the IUD could have been partially at fault for the cramps. I had it taken out yesterday, if you are interested in the saga, I wrote out the novel in a comment above :)