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11 September 2014 @ 07:55 am
That, basically, is my story. I thought if I could insert four fingers, the cup should go in fine but it won't. Now it could be my angle is wrong but the cup won't even go in halfway. I can't get the whole rim in. When I try, it pushes against the delicate tissue around it and hurts. I suppose I need to do a sort of hemming and hawing, slowly getting one side then the other in. But I can't see when the cup is blocking all my view. I can get four fingers in at once just fine without looking.

I tried coconut oil as lubricant and it did hurt a little less but it still wouldn't go in. I don't know that there's much else I can do except keep trying over and over. But if there's anything you think I'm missing, I will try it if I can. Thanks!

(I'm using the mooncup which I read is "rimmy". Is there anyone else who absolutely could not get the mooncup in but could get other cups in? I can't afford another cup but maybe the one I have just won't work.)

Update: Oh my. Oh my. Oh my. I got it in!!! Oh my goodness. I am just - collapses. I could hardly even feel it, except the stem was hurting me so I'm going to cut it partially or all the way out. I have no idea how it finally got in. I guess all the finger practice worked.

Removal was ... not easy. I took about fifteen minutes and it hurt but it was a lot easier than insertion.
Yuanting Tao on September 10th, 2014 08:18 pm (UTC)
Which fold did you try? I know many people swear by the C fold but I personally can never get any cup in by using that fold. Punch down, seven fold and origami all work wonderfully for me. I didn't really understand when reading your "slowly getting one side in then another" line. God I hope you didn't try to just shove the whole rim in without folding it cause that would definitely not work.
mintleifs on September 10th, 2014 09:34 pm (UTC)
Thank you for answering! I've tried all the folds but the one that got in was a cross between the triangle fold and the seven fold. It was the right shape and the tip was small enough.

Haha. Luckily I didn't! :)
..::bella vita::..por_que_no on September 10th, 2014 11:17 pm (UTC)
I don't know if this would work with a stiff one like the Mooncup (or any cup with a real flange under the rim) but my absolute favorite fold is the labial fold--if you do it right the cup is really no bigger than a super plus tampon. Here's a handy guide to some alternative folds you may try: http://menstrualcupforteens.wordpress.com/folds-and-insertion/

I had a little bit of trouble getting the Chinese Rainbow cup into a labial fold at first (it does have a slight flange but not enough to bother me, and the cup itself is super soft), but I blame the coconut oil.

If you decide you'd like to try a different cup, check out the mc-sales community--you can sell off your Mooncup or maybe offer a trade. I know extremely athletic types often prefer the super-stiff cups and if they train heavily they will sometimes have light periods and won't mind the MC's crappy capacity. (As you might've figured, I don't fit this profile!) Good luck and welcome!
xyzpdq84 on September 11th, 2014 04:12 am (UTC)
Aww I feel your pain. I'm not exactly physically fit (um, at all, currently) and I have to contort to put it in and take it out, but as I am continuing to lose weight I have a feeling it will get easier and easier.

I don't have the mooncup, I have a Lunette Model 2 but it seems quite firm compared to the reviews I've seen on youtube showing the differences in the firmness. Mine is a bit difficult to fold but a C-Fold is easier than the punch-own method but for me, I found that between the two the punch-down method is best for me. I could not get it in with the C-fold. I could get it in about half way but the other half of the cup itself (not only the stem) was fully outside y body and it opened. So after spending a few minutes with the c-fold I tried the punch down fold and wallah! I can get it in fully. I will have to cut my stem off mostly or fully due to my cervix being low but it may be a "dangly cervix" which I had never heard of until this LJ group. LOL I am not yet able to put my fingers up there to check cervix height as I'm too chunky (ok, obese) to contort enough, YET. Taking it out is another matter is it rides up very quickly for me. I have no idea how I'll remove it without making a mess at my current weight, but as long as I only have to change it at home I'll be fine. haha

OH and I did find that bearing down while inserting it helped dramatically as well! I think it helps to relax the vaginal opening that may be tightening up on you when you are inserting it (mine did, too).

I hope I have helped you. Good luck!

Edited at 2014-09-11 04:13 am (UTC)
..::bella vita::..por_que_no on September 11th, 2014 01:32 pm (UTC)
I'm not sure weight will have much to do with not making a mess when removing it--I'm in the normal range (well, just barely south of overweight lol) but it sometimes still looks like a murder scene! Congratulations on your weight loss though! :)
xyzpdq84 on October 4th, 2014 06:21 am (UTC)
I have successfully used it for a whole day now. Nope, no "murder scene" yet. ;) Woohoo!