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21 August 2014 @ 09:13 pm
I have finally gotten a cup! First time using my divacup this period. I used it for the first two days (when I usually get cramping, though) and felt this pressure/discomfort against my bladder/uterus area/belly. (TMI, but it was also weird farting?) I'm pretty sure it wasn't my cramps that I usually get though, didn't feel like them. So I've decided the cup is too firm...

Also, my period has always been heavy (started it 2-3 years ago?) for the first day or two. But this time using the menstrual cup, it was soo pretty normal actually, I was like omg. I stopped using the cup after 2-3 days because of the discomfort, and ended up with no pain at all (!! for me thats like wow) and a much normal period using disposables (it may have been lighter as a cause of the cup? Idk it's never been this light ever). I was wondering, could the cup have had an effect on me? Damage, maybe? I noticed when I was inserting it, it was like KAPOW suction (no pain, just WOAH I guess it's suctioned) and I took it out by tugging some on the stem to pinch the base, but all was well I think. It did sort of seem like I was really tugging on my insides!

It may have just been my awareness of the cup, though I couldn't feel it, but I might've just had to get used to it being there? I'm not sure, really.

But anyways, I'm looking for a softer cup! My first question though, is if I get a meluna soft, and I don't know how strong/not strong my pelvic muscles are, if it does crunch up/collapse inside me, will it leak? (I've always ridden horses, and sometimes!!! I run and do exercises. But I'm like 5'6 and 105 pounds or so Idk if it makes a diff.) Because I don't see a problem with it crunching up as long as it doesn't leak. Also, will the rim have an effect on discomfort, depending on big/small firm/soft?

But is there any cup that is softer than a divacup, but not softer than a soft meluna (and, though not a huge factor, around the same build/size of the divacup)? I still don't know how high my cervix is, but while wearing the divacup I could just feel the stem, and push it out if I needed to (which I liked, noting that it was still there). Any variable in between that is what I'm looking for. Softer than divacup (if only by a little, at least) but not softer than meluna (lol is there even anything softer than that?).

AND FINALLY, sorry so much! I'm still sort of scared to sleep with a cup in. I usually sleep on my stomach or side. I'm not worried about leaking, but what about the menstrual flow? Will it "go back inside me" or cause any damage or trouble (because I'm laying down)? What if it like sits there, either on it's side or piled up?

Any insight at all on anything in this would be very much appreciated!!

P.S. I do not do not do not want a sckoon cup! I know about them, and that they're pretty soft, but I have my reasons for not wanting one.
..::bella vita::..por_que_no on August 22nd, 2014 01:43 am (UTC)
I'll try to hit as many questions as possible--if I miss any I'm sure other members will fill in!

-Yes, if a cup doesn't pop open properly especially, it can get crushed by strong PC muscles. Certain cups have a special design that's easier to pop open, though (Fleur, Si-Bell--I think Sckoons would be too short for you anyway, aside from your just not wanting one)

-The cramps could have been the cup "suckering" onto your cervix--this can happen if your cervix is just a touch narrower in diameter than the opening of the cup. My Lily does this when my cervix dangles (end of my period) and it causes mild cramping, particularly when I'm trying to remove it. No problem most of the time though.

-No idea how the Meluna Soft compares in stiffness, but a very soft cup with a nice long stem that still pops open easily is the Si-Bell--I know I recommend this cup for most people but since the Diva worked for you lengthwise, you'll want to look for the longest cups so your options are a bit more limited (the Si-Bell has a shorter cup than the Diva but a longer stem so you can still reach the stem, pull down as you "birth" the cup, and then you can reach the base) - I am kid-less and pretty young but use the Large for capacity reasons. The Small may be fine for you though. I think I saw that someone was selling a Si-Bell on the mc_sales community if you'd like to grab one!

-As for blood backing up inside you during sleep--no problem that I know of. This probably happens all the time when I wear my Lily or Femmycycle, which don't have suction holes. (Anything with air holes will just leak when it's full, but the hole-less cups create a tight seal so that extra blood may well just back up into the uterus.) I think once or twice I felt some mild cramping from the blood backing up but it was relieved by emptying my cup.
starry15987 on August 22nd, 2014 02:04 am (UTC)
Thank you very much for your reply!! You've answered nearly everything. :)

So I understand that the cup will get crushed, but if there is a proper seal does that mean the cup will leak (even when not full) do you think?

Also, do you know if there's any surefire way to know if the cup was "suckering" onto my cervix? (TMI) Oh, and also like I'd insert the cup and I'd be afraid to let go, because my vagina started sucking it in! But do you think that'd have anything to do with it?

And I have totally considered a si-bell cup, but I'm worried about not being able to pinch the base, because there are no grip rings... But I will definitely ponder some more ;)

Edited at 2014-08-22 03:06 am (UTC)
..::bella vita::..por_que_no on August 22nd, 2014 04:04 am (UTC)
Re: the cup getting crushed--I suppose it would depend where it got crushed. If it were evenly crushed from the side it wouldn't be totally open around your cervix and yes, you'd leak--but if only the bottom were pinched you might still have a good seal, you'd just lose some capacity (this might happen if the cup is longer than the space between your cervix and pubic bone--I prefer short cup + long stem for that reason alone; most of my cervix height is actually between the pubic bone and the outside) For example, with my Femmycycle (which is designed not to pop open entirely), as long as the top of it is open around my cervix it's fine and is very leakproof, but if it's still folded up around the top, it misses my cervix and I leak badly--so I have to check that it's open around the top first.

For checking if the cup has attached to your cervix, if you can reach this high, I would "sweep" around the cup with a finger and see if you can feel something kind of solid just inside the top of the cup (along the rim)...that's how I knew my cervix was inside the Lily...also that I would get a mild cramp corresponding to each tug as I tried to break the suction and remove it.

Re: the Si-Bell--I have no problem pinching the base even without grip rings. It takes me longer to use the stem to pull it down to where I can reach the base, because I'm now overly careful with the stem (I was an idiot and applied some petroleum-based yeastie ointment as I was wearing my old small one, and that broke down the silicone and caused half my stem to snap off, meaning I could barely reach the cup and had to sell it off, then get a new one with the full stem. But if you don't mix vaseline and silicone like my dumb @$$ did it should hold up fine!)
Kai: 2Cupskuradi8 on August 22nd, 2014 06:32 pm (UTC)
No, don't get another cup yet. You're still in the learning curve. Get through 2-3 periods with the cup that you have now and then decide whether or not you still want another cup. You are experiencing very typical newbie sensations and apprehensions. A different cup won't necessarily give you a different perspective. In other words... it's not the cup, it's you. You're getting used to using it, wearing it and learning to trust it.

A modification you might want to make to your Diva is to enlarge the anti-suction holes around the rim. The ones on the Diva are notoriously tiny and sometimes not punched all the way through at the factory. They help with popping open and also with preventing suction during removal. Something like a piercing or dermal punch will probably leave less ragged holes than scissors or a drill bit. The holes on the cup with the largest holes are 2mm.
Kathlynekathlyne on August 22nd, 2014 07:40 pm (UTC)
I want to second everything Kuradi said. It just make take a couple of cycles for your body to get used to the cup.

Also, wearing the cup overnight isn't a big deal. If the cup gets full it will leak. Laying on your side, back, whatever isn't a problem. The cup still fills.