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feeling a bit down - just got my period 10 months after my VBAC and still not right down below... I am beginning to realise it may NEVER be right down there but I am shocked at how baggy my vagina is :( I think I probably have a slight prolapse and have an appointment booked with the GP to ask for some Oestrogen pessaries but i don't think my oestrogen will be that low now i have had a period? Which means I am stuck with a v baggy fanny...

Anyway my cup question - I used to use a UK Mooncup in the bigger size for over 30s/ post childbirth. my cervix was high and it was a bit of a struggle to get it in but it worked well.
Now I have no trouble getting it in but it begins to slide out immediately and it feels too long, even if i cut the stem off completely and if it would stay in. My cervix now feels low - 2nd knuckle and wow, there is just soo much room!
Is there another cup I could try that is wider and shorter than a UK Mooncup? Don't think a mooncup would turn inside out?

Kai: 2Cupskuradi8 on August 6th, 2014 11:32 pm (UTC)
LOL! You read about turning it inside out (not effective for a Mooncup) but didn't see the 1001 pointers to the size charts? ;oP There are a bunch of them at the Community FAQ. And another set at http://sizecharts.livejournal.com/

But I don't think a different cup will solve your issue. Yes, you probably do have some childbirth-related prolapse. And your overall vaginal muscles are probably weakened as well. There are a couple of paragraphs about pelvic floor strength at the end of the Answers to Commonly Asked Questions at http://kuradi8.livejournal.com/ Your doctor can advise you about other Kegel exercises if you don't like what is suggested there. And/Or Google for other methods.
xquizite_insomxquizite_insom on August 7th, 2014 12:23 am (UTC)
Your physician will verify if there is associated prolapse, sounds like it though. The pessaries work short term, but pelvic floor/core strengthening and toning goes a long way in restoring tone.

In the meanwhile, the widest menstrual cup that is also shorter than my Keeper (I do not have a mooncup) is the Low Cervix Femmycycle. They have their regular cups on the site, I had to send them an email to get the low cervix femmycycle. There is also the large Eco cup.

Edited for spelling.

Edited at 2014-08-07 12:34 am (UTC)
chicklvsequity on August 7th, 2014 02:06 am (UTC)
I haven't used a femmycycle, but it looks to be the largest, widest and highest capacity of them all. It also has a different, no-spill shape compared to all the others. You could definitely take a look at that and make Kegels a regular part of your life. Develop a routine out of them, like right before bed, so you never forget to do them.
nightchild01nightchild01 on August 7th, 2014 08:34 am (UTC)
I hope your doctor's appointment goes well and any treatment for your problems goes smoothly.

I agree with the others that a shorter, wider cup might help. So will things to help strengthen your pelvic floor. Good luck with that.

Also, according to the rules, you're not supposed to use gendered language. Can you please edit your post so your greeting doesn't include "ladies"? Not everyone here identifies as a woman/female. For more info, go here: http://www.livejournal.com/userinfo.bml?user=menstrual_cups
Jennnakedfaery on August 7th, 2014 10:39 am (UTC)
It's not abnormal to feel a bit stretched out near the top of your vagina and there's not a lot that can be done about that. But you can definitely improve the tone of your pelvic floor muscles. Biofeedback training helped me to learn how to do it properly and I saw an obstetric physiotherapist for that. I had a HBAC and a 2nd degree tear. It wasn't a severe tear that made a mess, it was unusual in that it was a perfectly straight neat test but it went far back enough that I narrowly avoided having a third degree tear. The straight neat nature of the tear meant that I didn't get sutured, I just sat with my legs shut for a couple of weeks and it healed just fine, within a couple of weeks. It ached for about 8 weeks. My muscles felt fine to me but I was really incontinent for a while, which is why I saw the OP and had the biofeedback stuff done. My continence is fine now.

It's definitely not unusual to need a bigger cup after a vaginal birth. Before I had my vaginal birth (I'd had a c section after reaching full dilation and pushing for four hours) I still only needed a small cup. I had a small pink Ladycup and a small black classic MeLuna with a ball stem, which I preferred.</p>

After my vaginal birth I needed a bigger cup. I tried a Natural Mama and it was almost brilliant, just found the shape not quite right and it a bit too stiff. I ended up getting a Skooncup (which is the softest cup on the market afaik) and choosing the larger size, that is my Goldilocks cup.

Please don't fear, it will get better. There's a lot that can be done to help and you're not stuck with your vagina being a way you dislike forever, I promise. Good luck with any treatment you have and I hope you can find a cup that works for you. I think others have suggested the Femmycycle and that sounds like a good idea for now.

And possibly a bit helpy, but the technique I used for my kegel exercises was a bit different to what I expected. Inhale slowly and deeply and then tighten the muscles as you EXHALE. This stopped me from accidentally engaging my abdominal muscles, which according to my OP makes the kegel less effective as you're not engaging it correctly. It took a while but I also had to learn how to engage my vaginal muscles rather than clenching my anal muscles. Which while they're in the same area, you'll get a better effect if you're just concentrating on the vaginal muscles. Biofeedback helped me to have more awareness. When you first start it can be difficult to feel anything other than a slight pull. But if you practice and aim for say 4 lots of 4 attempts each day, you'll definitely notice an improvement. I'd inhale, tighten on the exhale and hold for 5 seconds. Break for a breath and then repeat. As time went on I was able to hold them for longer. It also helps to do what I call 'quick kegels' in which I inhale, then on the exhale I clench and relax as many times as possible before the exhale is finished or until my vaginal muscles got tired.

http://m.netdoctor.co.uk/womenshealth/sui/biofeedback_005169.htm this explains a bit more about how biofeedback works.

knackeredfanny on August 8th, 2014 11:51 pm (UTC)
Hi everyone,
Thank you so much for your advice and quick replies. I am going to ask my doctor to refer me to a physiotherapist who will hopefully sort me out! in the meantime I will keep on with the exercises and remember to breathe out whilst doing them :) I have been to postnatal pilates so I have some exercises to do, just need to do them a lot more often.....

you will probably not like me saying this but I am going to order some sea sponges and see how I get on with them. I always hated putting the mooncup in and getting it out, always hurt a bit and that was after a few years of fiddling round with it. I have also asked femmycup about their low cervix model, but I only have about an inch/ inch and a half so I'm not convinced I have room for anything!
I will update later for anyone in the future looking for info.
thanks again everyone