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My info: I'm 29 have had kids. I would say medium to higher cervix as in hard time reaching with fingers when I try.

I've tried diva size 2, sckoon size 2 and Mooncup size A basically the sizes for women who have had kids.

Every time I use a cup it leaks. I know the rim is all the way open as I can feel it and also hear it Pop. The moon cup says to place low in the vagina same with diva as in not up around cervix though honestly I've tried low and high and kegels to place it with No luck. I'm desperate to ditch tampons and love the idea of the cup I just wish it worked.

So I want to try one more cup but Not sure which was thinking wider might Be better so maybe the ladycup large, my reasons being The mooncup A moves to much inside me like I can easily pull it out with little effort and it's 4.4 cms wide I think, the diva doesn't move so much but I've never had any luck getting that to work. I have no issues with the firmness or length or stem of any of the 3 cups I've tried basically my
Only issue is the leaking. Also what positioning is better? Around cervix, by cervix or low by vaginal opening? If my cervix tilts left or right could that cause the leaking? Sometimes the cup barely had anything in it but tons on my pad.

I'm desperate! Please anyone guide me! I just want a cup that doesn't leak. Oh and they all leak no matter my flow wether it's light medium or heavy every single time.
 
elisamba on July 9th, 2014 08:06 am (UTC)
You're still in the learning curve, no point buying a new cup just yet. The Diva should work well with your high cervix. My guess is your cup may be suctioning to the vaginal wall, as illustrated here http://wiki.easycup.fr/utilisation:insertion

Try this method: once the cup is inserted, pinch the base and bear down simultaneous. This lets out air and bearing down brings your cervix closer to the cup. This should create a better seal between your cup and cervix.

If you know your cervix is tilted, then yes, find it first, and aim the cup towards it while using the above method.

Also what fold do you use? I find that sometimes the punchdown can feel open when in reality it isn't. Try the classic C-fold. It is not the easiest, but it really does open best.

Edited to add: don't insert it low. The general consensus on this community seems to be that noone understands why cup companies include that instruction, it just isn't right for many of us. Especially with you knowing you have a high cervix. Insert it as high as you can before letting it pop open.

Edited at 2014-07-09 08:19 am (UTC)
Kai: 2Cupskuradi8 on July 9th, 2014 01:15 pm (UTC)
I agree, don't buy another cup. You already have a wide variety of lengths and shapes.

Go to the Community FAQ and read the Commonly Asked Questions. In it, it talks about placement. Want to try my method? Insert your cup so the rim is just beyond your pubic bone. Allow it to open fully there. Then once it's open, nudge the base/stem so the rim of your cup points toward your cervix. For many of us, it's closer to our belly buttons that our tail bones. Others are off to one side or another. For me, that's a rather healthy nudge to the rear to tilt the cup forward. And then I give it a boost as I kegel it up into place. Needless to say, if your cervix is off to the left or right, aim your cup accordingly.

Despite what the instructions say (throw them away and forget you ever read them) you want to place your cup so that the rim is (O) around your cervix. Illustrations showing a cup-length or more between the rim and cervix are WAY out of proportion and just plain WRONG. (Why oh why do all of the manufacturers perpetuate that same misinformation???)

Hang in there. You've ALMOST got it.

(Edited for clumsy wording.)


Edited at 2014-07-09 02:04 pm (UTC)
kelly8910 on July 9th, 2014 03:56 pm (UTC)
Ok!!!! Yes I was always under the impression that it auctioned to the walls of your vagina and not the cervix! I will try your suggestions today :) I brought my sckoon and Mooncup I don't have my diva but I think either of those two should work. Ive tried the c fold and punch down fold but mostly have used c fold I am very certain the cup is open because I would push against my vaginal wall all the way around the cup and hear it pop and I could feel a round rim the whole way.

I will check the position of my cervix in the shower later to make sure I'm pointing it in the right direction.

When I pinch the base and bare down how much of the base should I be pinching?
Kathlynekathlyne on July 9th, 2014 04:32 pm (UTC)
It sounds like you may be missing your cervix. If the cup opens next to your cervix it is like holding a water glass next to the faucet, instead of under it. When you stir around the cup to see if it is open, make sure you can't feel the end of your cervix--if you can, then you need to reposition the cup.

Best of luck.
kelly8910 on July 9th, 2014 04:57 pm (UTC)
Ok so my cervix is just reachable with my index or middle finger so is say higher for sure it is also tilted towards my bum or tail bone and is pretty centered. I put my sckoon in and felt right up there it is definitely around my cervix this time. Only thing I wasn't sure about was it felt like there was a but of a dent in the cup like low down by the base but the rim was nice and full and open I turned it and pinched the base and bared down and it felt like the dent went away. So hopefully even with a small dent in the lower part of the cup but the rim open it doesn't leak. My sckoon is my softest cup which sometimes makes it a bit harder to pop. If it leaks I'll try my moon cup :)

Stay tuned and I'll update with how it works!
Kai: 2Cupskuradi8 on July 9th, 2014 07:36 pm (UTC)
Something else to consider: your Diva and Sckoon have fairly high capacities. The Mooncup does not. So you might want to save that Mooncup for light days.
kelly8910 on July 9th, 2014 07:44 pm (UTC)
Well I had a bit of spotting after first inserting so readjusted and nothing since! Hoping I've finally figured it out. It's been a few hours. I should be on a light to medium day and I will keep that in mind about the mooncups size!
Kai: 2Cupskuradi8 on July 9th, 2014 08:59 pm (UTC)
Don't worry about spotting. You'll figure out how to conquer that later. Until then, wear a liner/shield. Solve the BIG leaks first. And work on what we call "residual slobber" in a couple of cycles.

Remember, there's a learning curve to these. Learning how to work them and learning how to trust them. You are already well on your way. :o)
kelly8910 on July 9th, 2014 10:41 pm (UTC)
I do have trust issues with them so will be wearing a liner for a while. Has some breakthrough just now but it was hours after first putting it in. It was light and not to bad but more then spotting. What is residual slobber? I may have just needed to empty it it was about half full.
elisamba on July 10th, 2014 07:25 am (UTC)
That's great that you could finally use it leak-free! Leaking after a few hours usually simply means the cup is full. So that is good, now you know how long you can wear it before needing to empty it. It can be half full because your cervix dips down into the cup a bit, taking up some space.

You asked how much of the base you have to pinch? You'll have to determine that for your own personal needs. It's all part of the learning curve. Sounds like you may have found the right technique.

"Residual slobber" is this community's term for the little droplets of blood that cling to the vaginal walls and gradually make their way down, not flow per se. You know a cup is leaking when flow is coming out as if nothing was hindering it. Residual slobber on the other hand is usually a drop or two, and visibly not fresh blood.

Edited at 2014-07-10 07:31 am (UTC)
kelly8910 on July 10th, 2014 08:12 am (UTC)
Thank you so much ladies I'm so glad I didn't give up on this. Still having spotting but very little could be this residual slobber. I will stick with it!
trejoytrejoy on July 12th, 2014 08:04 pm (UTC)
Even residual slobber may lessen with experience. Congrats on conquering the constant leakage. I went through the same thing for too long (prior to finding this forum) and felt just as desperate about it until I located my cervix and understood how to position the cup around it!