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03 July 2014 @ 11:34 pm
Hello, everyone! I've been perusing this community for a while, but haven't ever had a reason to post. Now I do.
About me:
25 years old; sexually active; no children; have been using my divacup (small) successfully for many, many years. A year ago I got a copper IUD fitted, and I absolutely love it. However, I've just noticed that I haven't been using my cup as regularly since I got the IUD (opting instead for cloth pads), and I finally figured out why: I feel like the divacup is quite lengthy, and to get it to "pop" open and create suction, I need to place it fairly high in my vagina (very close to my cervix. Which is fine; it's comfy that way and it works).
I know this doesn't happen often, but I am nervous about tugging on my strings and accidentally dislodging my IUD (placing it was painful to a traumatic degree, and I'm not eager to repeat that experience any sooner than I have to).
I guess my questions are these:

1. My OBGYN has told me that I have a high cervix (quote: "Huh... It's really far up there, isn't it?), but menstrual cups shouldn't have to sit so high up, should they? That being said, when I try to position the cup away from my cervix lower down in the vagina, it cannot fully pop open, I can't get a good seal, and it peeks out of my vagina (even with the stem trimmed). I've tried many folds and running it under cold water, but no dice. My divacup and my cervix are BFFs and will not be separated without a fight. I have tried many different folds, and I have always run it under cold water. Like I said if I shove it way up there it works like a dream, but I'm hoping there's a way I can avoid placing it so high up.

2. Has anyone here run into similar issues? Should I be looking for a different cup with a shorter length? My periods were very heavy for a few months post IUD insertion, but they've mellowed out a lot recently and the divacup's capacity is more than adequate. Should I perhaps be looking for a firmer cup?

I just feel a little stumped. Does anyone have any insight about IUDs/menstrual cup placement/both of these things together?

I appreciate any insight any of you might have, and I thank you in advance!

EDIT: I do understand that shorter cups tend to "ride up with wear", so I realize that may not be the solution. I already have to essentially reach up near my cervix to break the seal if I insert my divacup comfortably. It just seems like with a long cup (the one I have) it sits at my cervix, and with a short cup it would float up toward my cervix. Is this just the way it is? The instructions for most cups say they should sit past the pubic bone but not all the way up there, but this has not been my experience.
Kai: 2Cupskuradi8 on July 4th, 2014 12:47 pm (UTC)
Go to the Community FAQ and read the Commonly Asked Questions, including the link to Suction. Also read the Myths. And compare your Diva's dimensions to other cups at the various size charts.

Those posts will answer most of your questions.
YOU know who I am..hampsterslipper on July 4th, 2014 06:06 pm (UTC)
Thank you! I did look in those sections, but I'll take another peek and do some more research. I did't think to check out the suction part because getting suction has never been an issue for me, but I suppose that's part of my concern now with the IUD.
Kathlynekathlyne on July 4th, 2014 05:42 pm (UTC)
I'm not sure I quite understand your EDIT.

A cup is going to sit where it wants to sit. The cup will move and settle around the cervix. So if your cervix is high up, yeah, it's going to sit high up. Forget those drawings that show it sitting with a bunch of room between the cervix and cup. Getting a shorter cup will just mean you have to reach further up to reach the cup.

In my opinion if you have to stick it way in for it to open, fine. I would think that removal would be more of a concern for IUDs than insertion. Read the posts with IUD tags for info on that....I can't say cause I don't have one.
YOU know who I am..hampsterslipper on July 4th, 2014 06:10 pm (UTC)
Yeah, sorry I wasn't too clear! I was just confused because the diagrams all show the cup should be miles from the cervix, but this has never been my experience.
Insertion isn't difficult or anything, but it's the removal that has me concerned as that cup gets pretty good suction. Currently I have to reach right up to the rim to break the suction, so if a shorter cup did ride up then it wouldn't make a difference to me that way. My technique would remain the same.

I did try turning it inside out which decreases the length quite a bit and tried a dry run last night. We shall see how that goes!

Thank you :)
Kathlynekathlyne on July 4th, 2014 06:57 pm (UTC)
I still don't understand why you want to shorten the cup. Forget the diagrams. The cup will settle around your cervix--no "empty zone" between the cervix and cup. See a diagram here:

Menstrual cup Diagram

I know other diagrams show the "empty zone." They are just wrong.

Also: The diva cup has tiny holes. If you enlarge them it might make removal easier.

Edited at 2014-07-04 07:00 pm (UTC)
YOU know who I am..hampsterslipper on July 4th, 2014 09:06 pm (UTC)
Yeah that diagram looks much more accurate. I'll try enlarging the holes and see if that helps :)

Oh! And the reason I thought a shorter cup might help is that when the diva cup is in, if it is not far up enough the bottom of the cup is sort of pinched in half in the lower part of my vagina and then the top ring can't expand because of it.

Edited at 2014-07-04 09:09 pm (UTC)
elisamba on July 5th, 2014 08:13 am (UTC)
I don't have an IUD, but I think the longer cup might actually be better because you are pinching the base to remove suction. It seems like there would be less of a chance to accidentally tug the strings. (?) You can also make the Diva holes larger and/or add a few with a scrapbooking punch.
m03m on July 5th, 2014 08:18 pm (UTC)
This is a really good comment and I agree with all of it.
fluffmyflamingofluffmyflamingo on July 6th, 2014 10:14 am (UTC)
My cup rides up after insertion and I have an iud and a high cervix. It doesn't worry me, my theory is that if it rides up then it pushes the strings up and out of the way so it probably actually makes it safer for removal?
blauwemaan on September 23rd, 2014 06:39 pm (UTC)
I guess I am a little late to the party. I just wanted to say that I have an IUD for many years now and started using a cup six months ago. I feel totally comfortable wearing both. So far, nothing disastrous happened. The IUD didn't come out, nor am I afraid that it will :-)