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11 April 2014 @ 12:22 am
About a year and a half ago, I bought my first menstrual cup and came here for advice because I had absolutely no experience sticking anything in my vagina. I eventually managed to put the cup in and remove it a few times, but I always had issues with getting it past my pubic bone. Tt didn't seem to pop open, or I couldn't tell, and always felt this weird sensation when I walked. I put the cup away and have used reusable pads up to now, which have worked wonderfully.

Today, I finally decided to try the cup again. Insertion was much easier... although there was some chaffing. However, it popped! But it popped way too close to the entrance of my vagina and was extremely uncomfortable and it needed to be removed. I tried again in the shower and while it was a little sore because of my earlier attempt holy crap, I managed to get it in far enough, and it popped (it kinda hurts when it pops though, is that normal?) For the first time ever I couldn't feel it unless I consciously tried to (aka squeeze my muscles)! I finished my shower and wanted to practice removal again....

it was up way farther than I've ever had to deal with. It was way past my pubic bone and I could only touch it with my pointer finger, I couldn't manage to push my thumb in far enough to grab onto the base. I nearly panicked, but I tried to relax and look for the stem. The stem was in a weird position, it was like the cup was tilted to the left (is my cervix tilted that way or something? I've never been able to find my cervix) and the stem was nestled between my pubic bone and my vaginal walls and I STRUGGLED SO HARD before I finally managed to grab it with a good grip.... I was getting really frustrated, especially since the stem stretched when I pulled on it. I dealt with grabbing and then losing it quite a few times. Eventually I DID manage to use it to coax the cup out, and any of the blood that came out was inside so it means it was in correctly...

but wow, that was difficult. I guess I have a high cervix? I've never trimmed the stem and yet I still had so much trouble grabbing it... WHich is a total first since every other time, the stem was at least partially sticking out of my vagina. Now I'm terrified of how hard it would have been if I'd preemptively trimmed it or something. It took so long to remove, I can't imagine doing that in the middle of the day to empty it out. Also, I feel like I chafe every time I insert/remove so doing that a few times during the day sounds even MORE unappealing. I know lube helps but do people really use lube for it through their entire period? Any advice?
elisamba on April 11th, 2014 06:30 am (UTC)
The weird sensation when you walked, as well as the stem partially sticking out, tells me that the cup was not fully inserted. Now you know that proper placement means you can't feel it!

If the cup was tilted just after you inserted it, then I don't think that would indicate your cervix is tilted. The cup takes a couple minutes to wiggle up to the cervix. If the removal you are describing was at the end of a few hours, though, then yes, your cervix could be tilted.

I sympathize with the short cup and high cervix - not fun to remove. Moving up to a longer cup made a big difference for me, and the only small cup I kept has a long, bendy stem and a cone shape, easy to grip, push and take out.

Have you tried finding your cervix on your period? Your cervix is lowest at that time, and moves higher at other times of the cycle. You can insert a finger all the way and bear down while it is inserted, that may bring the cervix down where you can feel it.
tempestas_inu: argh! sorry!tempestas_inu on April 11th, 2014 02:32 pm (UTC)
Yeah, Everyone says that the cervix is lower when on your period. But i still tried looking for it yesterday and I couldn't find anything that felt like a nose except for my stupid pubic bone (I say stupid because it causes the most problems during insertion), which obviously isn't it.

Any cup reccomendations? I gravitated towards the small cups because I am a beginner and even now when I try inserting my current cup (It's a sckoon) it's not the world's easiest thing... wouldn't a bigger cup be even harder to deal with?
Carriecarrieb on April 11th, 2014 04:57 pm (UTC)
I'm a very experienced cup user. I've been using my Diva for over 8 years now and was using soft cups before that. I just bought a sckoon and can not get it in at all. When I finally did it hurt a lot and left a lot of chafing. From the problems you are describing, I think you would do better with a Diva or something similiar. I find the sckoon is way too soft to work with. A diva is nice and long, but also fairly slender.
tempestas_inu: argh! sorry!tempestas_inu on April 11th, 2014 07:55 pm (UTC)
Really? For the record, I have an easier time with the sckoon than the lunette, which was my first cup (and that I left at home). I always avoided the Diva because I've always had trouble with my attempts at insertion due to sizing, and given that the Diva is both longer and wider than either of the cups I have right now, I figured it would trouble me even more :/. Honestly, my trouble has come more from lack of ability to grab onto the STEM rather than the cup itself.
Carriecarrieb on April 11th, 2014 08:10 pm (UTC)
You know yourself best! I hate my sckoon though. And the same thing happened with the stem. . . I grabbed it, but it was not strong enough to actually pull the thing out. Maybe there is a better cup for you. I guess look at the charts and see if you can find one with small width and longer length.
elisamba on April 11th, 2014 06:18 pm (UTC)
Yes and no. It folds up small for insertion - try the half-diamond fold, which you can see on the Lunette YT folds video. But removal was harder than insertion in my experience. Takes a while to get the knack and can be painful while learning how to collapse the cup and what angle to ease it out.

So the right length is very important. I agree it is unfortunate that there are few long, narrow cups. If you want to stick to a small cup, I recommend the small Organicup because the stem is long and easy to grip. I've also read good reviews of the small Si-Bell, which also has a long stem and sounds very easy to use.

Whether or not the title applies to you, did you know about the "virgin's guide to cups" on this website?
tempestas_inutempestas_inu on April 11th, 2014 07:51 pm (UTC)
Yeah, I read that guide the first time around and it was really helpful.

Actually, removal isn't that hard for me once I can pinch the base, my problems yesterday came from the fact I couldn't grab the stem to pull it down!

The sckoon is actually my second cup. I have a lunette also, but it's at home (I'm in college). I never considered the other brands. Looking back on when I first tried things, I actually have an easier time with insertion with the sckoon than the lunette. I might go looking at the organicup and the si-bell.
elisamba on April 12th, 2014 05:19 am (UTC)
Actually the Sckoon doesn't fold up small, now I see what you mean. The small Gaia might be also be nice for your high cervix, it is very soft, folds up very small and basically has no rim. What I like most about it is that I can keep it folded in a C-fold with just one finger, yet it pops open easily once fully inserted.