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11 April 2014 @ 11:42 am
I am a 44 year old female that has had 3 vaginal births (my youngest is 17 now). My periods are regular 30 days apart with the odd early or late day sprinkled in just 'for fun'. I have very heavy bleeding the first two days of my period and then it tapers off pretty quickly. I get a really light day and then it starts again for a couple of days and presto, done.

My husband and I have started bike touring last year now that the kids are leaving the nest so I purchased a large Fluer cup 9 months ago (Purple, yay), as it is a more practical way to manage my period whilst on the bike, and it means I don't have to carry boxes of tampons with me.

I have had constant leaks the whole 9 months and am still wearing a panty liner, which defeats the purpose somewhat. On our first 2 week bike tour I even managed to make a huge mess in a motel room when we had a rest day. I was so tired from riding 100kms a day that I fell into a really deep sleep. It soaked all the way through to the mattress... This leaking is constant and not because the cup is full. I know what the bubbly feeling feels like on the odd occasion that I have actually managed to fill the cup, because I am constantly running to the toilet to clean myself up.

I have had to trim the tab right back as it was super uncomfortable unless it was pushed up high and I have found the ridges on the cup quite sharp as well. I can certainly feel the cup when it sits low. But that didn't worry me as much as the leaking. I have also found that the first day it is almost agony wearing a cup as my cervix gets so swollen and hangs really low, especially just after insertion when the suction occurs. After the initial flood days I don't have a problem comfort wise.

So I would like to know from you lovely ladies out there if I need to get a bigger cup to create a better seal, a stiffer cup that won't kink with my monstrous cervix pushing into it, or is it just my technique? I use the punch down fold after rinsing the cup and I don't have any trouble with insertion or removal. I am now looking at perhaps getting an XL Meluna (ball ended) in a classic or a sport because its made out of TPE and the ridges appear a bit softer.

I have spent quite some time reading through the entries here and I do the kegels to get the cup higher, rotating the stem to make sure it's opened up and feeling around to make sure the cervix is not hanging over the edge as suggested, but still I leak like a sieve......

Any suggestions or comments gratefully accepted.
elisamba on April 11th, 2014 06:54 am (UTC)
Unfortunately there aren't many wider cups or shorter cups. Also I wonder about the cup sealing around the cervix, since I found out that the largest cervical cap is 30 mm wide - that would leave 1.5 cm leeway around the Fleurcup. While I love the large Fleur, I can imagine grip rings would be irritating for frequent removal.

For your heavy flow, try this technique: find your cervix and insert the cup aiming towards it. After full insertion, pinch the base while bearing down. This removes the air in the cup and for some people, cuts down on leaks.

Same length and 1 mm wider (in a sensitive body area, it might make a difference!) is the large Si-Bell, which is also softer, a similar shape, has no grip rings, and gets good reviews. The other wider cups are also longer, so I don't know how they would fare with your low cervix, and sitting on a bike seat. The other I might recommend based on its reviews is the large Juju, same width but 2 mm shorter, smooth, and slightly firmer.

FWIW some people on the French MC forum report becoming allergic to the "peach fuzz" finish on the Fleurcup.
elle2013elle2013 on April 11th, 2014 08:48 pm (UTC)
I can't wear the Fleur right side out at all - I flip mine so the ridges don't irritate things (I wear all my cups wrong side out, actually). I have a low cervix as well, and I've never had trouble reaching it. Regarding the leaking, I'm wondering if you'd benefit from a cup with a stiffer rim. I don't know how the capacity would work for you, but I LOVE my LadyCup. It pops open easily, NEVER leaks, and has decent capacity for me most days. I sleep in the Fleur for capacity sake, but I don't ever feel that the rim is quite as secure as the LadyCup's. Good luck!
Zzsomeone on April 11th, 2014 11:32 pm (UTC)
I have no idea if my experiences are in any way relevant to yours (39, no kids, in pretty decent shape) but when I was using a large cup (for capacity) I had a lot of leakage problems. I switched to a medium, and no longer have any problems unless it's really full.
Apparently, for me, the medium is a better fit and therefore seals way better.

I've tired a couple, I had a Fluer but it was too stiff for me, uncomfortable and prone to leaking. I switched to Meluna Glitter (softest) and that works far better for me.

As for the grip rings, I find both about equally irritating. I just ignore that as much as I'm able.
The Fluer has a thin rim though, which was extremely painful against my cervix on the first day or so, but the Meluna's thicker rim hardly bothers me.
bklynmom on April 12th, 2014 12:34 am (UTC)
I was thinking that a bigger cup would be better as it wouldn't have the room to shift. For me, the fleur is that cup- its pretty much the largest I can comfortably wear and is the most leakproof. Since its not for you, maybe a meluna XL like you thought, or the luv ur body or even the femmy cycle. I find the femmycycle and meluna XL just a bit too large and uncomfortable but they might fit the bill for you.

Fwiw I'm also in my 40s with a tween who was a large baby. I can use smaller cups on light days, but they leak at night so I stick with the fleur for nights. Also, some people here have said that the stiffness matters for them- I've read it goes both ways, some leak with soft cups and others with firm.

I hope it works for you, pads on a bike suck and it's really nice to have the longer time between changes that a good cup affords you on a long trip.
m03m on April 13th, 2014 10:37 am (UTC)
The ridges on the Fleur are fierce, but they can be filed/sanded to round them off and make them lower. That's what I did and my cup is super comfortable now.

Won't help with the leaking, but still good to know, perhaps.
okwaho_okaraokwaho_okara on April 13th, 2014 06:18 pm (UTC)
How does one go about doing that? My last period my large Fleurcup (I think it was at fault) irritated my vaginal opening so bad that I almost screamed taking it out (and I did scream once). The ridges never bothered me before and part of it is that the large does not come out as nicely as the small and that does irritate me a little, but, the ridges certainly did not help matters this time!! :(
m03m on April 13th, 2014 06:23 pm (UTC)
Here is my post that describes how I did it, and shows a picture of the result.
Happy tinkering! :-)
okwaho_okaraokwaho_okara on April 24th, 2014 04:43 am (UTC)
Thank you :D
okwaho_okaraokwaho_okara on April 24th, 2014 03:09 pm (UTC)
second reply.

I am starting to clip the grip rings off my large Fleur. It's amazing how easily they are coming off. I am not sure if I will sand it... do you think it makes it more likely that germs could accumulate where the rings used to be if I don't? I can quite easily get some sandpaper though. (the small doesn't really irritate me and I do need them sometimes).

Edited at 2014-04-24 03:09 pm (UTC)
m03m on April 24th, 2014 03:23 pm (UTC)
Frankly I don't think it makes much of a difference. If anything, the unsanded cut surface is probably smoother.
okwaho_okaraokwaho_okara on April 24th, 2014 03:34 pm (UTC)
Thanks :)

They're all off now & the stem is trimmed a bit more too. I was surprised how easily they came off! Now I have to grapple with how to take it out and the rim not hurting me, but I think the rim may have hurt more because of the grip rings... hard to know.
Inge LongInge Long on August 11th, 2014 11:05 am (UTC)
My woes are continuing....
So after purchasing two MeLuna cups (classic and a sport both in the basic style with no ball or tab) my leaking is still continuing. The Meluna feels so much better than the Fluercup as the ridges are nice and smooth, but I am still not able to go without liners.
I got the Large size in both as it was a bit shorter which I thought might help with my low cervix, but this of course means that the volume is less which doesn't help with my heavy flow. Grrrrrrr. I got so frustrated that I've been back onto the tampons the last few cycles.

So, I've just stumbled upon this http://femmycycle.com/blog/ which is about a new Femmycycle cup especially for a low cervix. Has any body heard anything about it yet?

Thanking you.