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01 March 2014 @ 06:41 pm
Been lurking for ages - this community has been super helpful!
I'm new to cups and have been using one for the last 2 cycles.
Anyway, after I discovered that there was indeed an alternative over trying to fit 2 pads and 3 tampons in the pockets of my work clothes to last through my shift, I went a bit overboard and ordered 2 cups at the same time...:)

So my small soft Meluna w the ring stem arrived first (+points to femininewear for super fast shipping!) and I think I've got the hang of it, works great, can't feel it when it's in properly, lasts 12 hours even on my heaviest day,...etc etc
Half diamond and origami folds were the ones that worked best for me. No problems at all.

The thing is, my small fleur just (finally!) arrived in time for this month and I've been having way more trouble with it than I ever did with the Meluna. It's much thicker and springier material and whatever I do I CAN'T fold it small enough to, er, fit.
And I've tried half diamond, diamond, punchdown, 7, triangle, origami, labia...
I'm guessing I need a really tiny insertion point, but the folds that do that are also pretty hard to hold closed, and the fleur is really springy.
The only time I managed to get it mostly in was with the triangle fold, and then it decided it wanted to open halfway in and halfway out, and then it woudn't budge or open fully when I pushed it and had to be retrieved in a partially unfolded state OW OW OW OW OW

I've been looking at the cups side by side and they LOOK pretty similar in terms of size...

Small Fleurcup in purple / small soft meluna in cyan

The Fleurcup feels really well made and I do like the idea of a silicone cup over TPE, so I really want it to work for me! (besides, it's PURPLE...)
Which is why I'd like to ask if anyone else has had a similar problem and how you ended up solving it?
Are there any other small folds I should try? (and which stay closed even when mostly in? >_<) Or should I just put it away for now and try again a few cycles later? Or should I just be happy that my Meluna works and write it off as not a good fit for me?

A bit about me - I'm 27, 5'3, never had sex, can fit up to 2 (small and short) fingers but not 3, about 5 or 6 cm long downstairs...

Thanks so much in advance! :)
Jennifer Monoteasy2begreen on March 1st, 2014 03:28 pm (UTC)
Yeah, I disagree with the softness rating that rates the small Fleur as a soft cup. It's at least as firm as my small Lunette and the bottom, due to the super heavy duty grip rings, is much firmer than that. I think the U-shape of the bottom plus the springy silicone and the grip rings that make the cup hard to collapse once it's in, make taking out the Fleur a bit of a pain. Something that might help is filing down the grip rings with a nail file. If you don't need them, you can actually file them down all the way so you have a smooth cup. That makes the bottom a lot softer. It's still not a cup I reach for very often, though.
denise: lightbulbcarpetfish on March 2nd, 2014 04:01 am (UTC)
Thanks! I was wondering how stiff the stiff cups were also since I read that the Fleur was soft before I purchased.
Will try to file down at least some of the grips n see how it goes...

Edited at 2014-03-02 04:01 am (UTC)
m03m on March 2nd, 2014 10:15 pm (UTC)
If you would ever want to get rid of them completely, you can cut them off with a nail clipper and then file the cup as smooth as you want.

Good luck!
Luceafaraluceafara on March 2nd, 2014 05:11 pm (UTC)
My small Fleurcup is one of my favorite cups. (OK, I may say that about all my cups.)

I've only ever used the C fold, so try that, and if it looks too big, try to put it in with a corner of the C fold first.

To take it out, I put a finger in, and make a U shape around the finger, to reduce the diameter. I personally find that the springyness makes the small Fleurcup much much much easier to use than the soft Meluna S, so I find your post and opposite experience really intriguing!

Good luck!

Edited at 2014-03-02 05:13 pm (UTC)
denisecarpetfish on March 2nd, 2014 06:53 pm (UTC)
I love that you have (and have used) so many cups! :)
The Meluna didn't always open properly when I first started using it but then I started 'plungering' it and that did the trick...or at least as far as I can tell...since putting a finger in FRONT of the cup hurts a lot so I don't check the front >:D as long as nothing leaks I'm a happy bunny!

Period's just about finished this time so will have a go of it next month!
Luceafaraluceafara on March 3rd, 2014 01:52 am (UTC)
I guess I am trying to make up for all the years I went without knowing anything about menstrual cups :)

I wear mine every day, so it's nice to explore different cups for different days. You could continue trying to perfect your technique even off-period, BTW.
denisecarpetfish on March 3rd, 2014 06:33 pm (UTC)
You know, you're right...
Thought I'd give it another go in the shower today and hey presto it's IN! :D
Tried punchdown and it sort of popped open by itself and WHOOSHED up out of my grip which was a bit surprising but not painful which I'm very thankful for :)

Think I will give it a few more goes and then figure out whether I need all the rings or no!

Anyway, I'm really happy that I can use it, I like the Fleurcup silicone a bit more than the Meluna TPE which always feels a little bit sticky.

Thanks to all for the helpful suggestions! :)
Luceafaraluceafara on March 3rd, 2014 07:04 pm (UTC)
Oh, that's great!! I agree, silicone feels better to the touch. I don't like that TPE shows my fingerprints on it and is a tad sticky, but I love the Meluna minis, and have been searching up and down the net to find silicone alternatives to them. I finally found the Italian Eco-cups, which come very close in size and shape :)
jchammondsjchammonds on March 2nd, 2014 06:02 pm (UTC)
I have a large Fleur and I love it. It's very soft. I use the punch down fold. Sorry I can't help!
denise: lightbulbcarpetfish on March 2nd, 2014 07:11 pm (UTC)
Thanks! I guess I will give it another good try next month! So many people like the Fleur :)
Luceafaraluceafara on March 3rd, 2014 01:44 am (UTC)
True, I only recall reading from one poster that the Fleurcup was not working for them, so it does seem that most people who have one, like it.