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22 February 2014 @ 11:02 pm
Hi!

I loved finding this page and find the info super useful. However, after hours of researching, I still have 2 questions when it comes to choosing my first cup: brand & size! At my location, I've seen that I can order GladRags, Meluna, Divacup or Mooncup for almost the same price. Any recommendation?

The next insecurity is the size. I like the detailed test that Meluna offers and would have an M there. However, I'm not sure if I should follow Diva's / Mooncups recommendation, because:
1. I am over 30 so should take the larger cup BUT
2. I have never given birth, I have a very well trained pelvic floor, and a very weak period.

Should I go with or against size recommendation? And can anyone recommend one of those brands over another?!

Thank you for your help!
 
elisamba on February 22nd, 2014 10:59 am (UTC)
With a light flow and good muscle tone, you can probably take a smaller size. What you don't mention is the height of your cervix while on your period, and that's probably the most important factor.

Divacup and Gladrags Keeper/Mooncup are longer, and better if you have a high cervix, the others are available in smaller sizes and better for a medium or lower cervix. You can check out the dimensions at the sizecharts on this website (the Mooncup you mention is MCUK or Gladrags Mooncup?)

Just for info, it is pretty easy to order online and lots of brands have free worldwide shipping, so you don't necessarily have to go with a locally avaiable brand.
move_nz on February 22nd, 2014 07:41 pm (UTC)
Thank you for your reply! I'l check on the cervix. Mooncup I was referring to was the UK brand.

I'm based in NZ, so pretty much the end of the world from everywhere else and haven't found one with free shipping, but I also didn't know all the brands, so didn't look on all the company websites! So all end up around 40-45 NZ$ pro cup. iherb.com seemed to be the cheapest option but they only have GladRagds & Diva.

Edited at 2014-02-22 07:42 pm (UTC)
elisamba on February 22nd, 2014 08:20 pm (UTC)
This site is a drop shipper and indicates free worldwide shipping with a small icon at the bottom right of the description boxes. You'll see, actually lots of brands offer free worldwide shipping. http://shop.menstrualcup.co/categories/Menstrual-Cups/

Since you are in New Zealand, did you know about the Australian cup, Juju?

Edited at 2014-02-22 08:20 pm (UTC)
teacupcake89 on February 22nd, 2014 11:58 am (UTC)
IGNORE the meluna test, if you reallywant a meluna choose a length based on how high or low your cervix is during your period.

meluna sizes run up small compared to all other brands, if you look at the size charts here: http://sizecharts.livejournal.com/ their Medium is more like a 'small'.

The Divacup is also one of the longest brands out there minus the short stem, so that also might not fit you depending on cervix info.

The Mooncup (both MCUK and Gladrags/Keeper) is pretty stiff which you might prefer with your muscles, but best to avoid if you're prone to UTIs. It doesn't hold very much which wouldn't necessarily be a problem for you, but when there are a load of other options out there you'd be silly to ignore them all.

but yes, like the other commenter said, www.femininewear.co.uk ship pretty much most brands internationally so look at all brands once you've narrowed it down with cervix info etc.

a large sized cup might fit you better if you have a lower or a dangly cervix, plus there's no problem having more capacity even if you have light periods, you'll just be able to go for much longer between emptying.
move_nz on February 22nd, 2014 07:47 pm (UTC)
Great - thank you for your help! I'll check out the other websites and ordering options.
Luceafaraluceafara on February 22nd, 2014 04:09 pm (UTC)
Also, Melunas are generally cheaper than other brands. Since you mention you see them priced similarly to Diva/Mooncup, you must be looking at an expensive site. I buy my Melunas directly from them: www.meluna.org (click Union Jack for English). They deduct the 19% sales tax from the final price during check-out if you live outside the EU.

However, most Melunas (except the XL?) don't work for high-cervix folks, so I second what was already said: find your cervix and let that be the deciding factor. Mine is so low that I have to cut the stems off all my cups, but there are users here who can only use the longest cups, or else they can't reach them to take them out.

You can ignore the age-size correlations all the various manufacturers quote; I still use what they recommend to virgin teenagers, and none of this has applied to me for a veeeeeeeery long time ;)


Apart from the aforementioned and awesome feminineware store, and www.meluna.org, you can get the Fleurcup directly at www.fleurcup.com, and I discovered an Italian store that has a bunch of additional, hard to get, cups: https://www.coppetta-mestruale.it - again, click the Union Jack for English. I just got a package from them and it went smoothly - no problems.

Edited at 2014-02-22 04:14 pm (UTC)
move_nz on February 22nd, 2014 07:45 pm (UTC)
Thanks for your reply. That's really helpful to hear that you also buy a different size!

I'm based in NZ (i.e. end of the world..) and with ordering online, also the Meluna ends up around NZ$ 40-45 - same like when I order GladRags or Diva through iherb.com. There was one NZ website which had Melunas cheaper, but they only have the XL size.

I'll check out the other websites you mentioned now - thank you!
move_nz on February 22nd, 2014 11:44 pm (UTC)
Wow, thank you for all your replies! After hours of research I thought I had a good overview and now there went another hour or two into it and more brands that I should get. More choices doesn't make the decision easier...

But I now know that I can feel the cervix if I go in all the way with the middle finger, so that's about 7.5 cm - so I guess that means average size. So now which brand?! Or do I just have to get one and try it? menstrualcup.co seems to have the cheapest option for the Meluna cup. But is that the brand I should go for? Or should I spend just NZ$ 5-10 more on another brand?
elisamba on February 23rd, 2014 09:14 am (UTC)
Your cervix moves and is at its highest during ovulation, so take that into account if you weren't menstruating when you took that measurement. I would call 7.5 cm a higher cervix, so you can go for one of the longer cups.

Some high-cervix people have no problems with shorter cups too, but I had a bad experience trying to "pry" a teeny cup off my high cervix, so don't recommend it. Particularly for a beginner - make sure you can easily grasp at least the stem, preferably the base.

You mentioned the large Fleurcup earlier - it is a great cup, one of my "goldilocks" along with the small Gaia and the small Organicup.
move_nz on February 23rd, 2014 09:31 am (UTC)
Cool, thanks for the reply. I actually am on my period right now, that's why I checked length right away. Could easily reach with finger though - just measured my finger to be about 7.5cm. I have looked into cervix position and found on several sources that it is lowest & hardest during menstruation and highest & softer during ovulation.

On the pictures the cups always look scarily huge, so I think I like the idea of a small one for the start. And then just get another one if that doesn't work...
elisamba on February 23rd, 2014 10:30 am (UTC)
Lol yeah they do look huge. I started out with the small Organicup, a very positive experience. Then I went on to the large Fleurcup for capacity. But the Fleur is so soft, I probably could have started out with it.

Edited at 2014-02-23 10:42 am (UTC)
Luceafaraluceafara on February 23rd, 2014 01:01 am (UTC)
They are all good cups, but knowing which one is good for you specifically is harder to say. The S Fleurcup and Mamicup may be the safest bet: not too soft or too hard, no learning curve AFAIK, pop open easily, very inexpensive even to NZ. Same goes for the Si-bell and Natu, apart from the firmness: they are suuuper soft... and they are a bit more expensive.

Have you checked ebay.co.au, or is shipping from AUS to NZ an issue?
http://www.ebay.com.au/sch/i.html?_trksid=p2050601.m570.l1313.TR0.TRC0.H0.XMenstrual+cup&_nkw=Menstrual+cup&_sacat=0&_from=R40

ETA: Have you seen this NZ store: http://www.environmenstruals.co.nz

Edited at 2014-02-23 01:27 am (UTC)
move_nz on February 23rd, 2014 01:30 am (UTC)
Cool, I think I'll order the S fleurcup then.

Yeah, I've checked all the NZ shops, but either more expensive or not the right size. (environmenstruals only had XL of Meluna cups) I'm ordering with a friend, so shipping will become cheaper anyway.

Thank you again for your great advice! Can be quite overwhelming... And I'm sure after that first one I'll want to try other brands too. And in June I'll be in Europe where it might be even easier to order.
Luceafaraluceafara on February 23rd, 2014 02:58 am (UTC)
Oh, good idea to order together. Shipping on fleurcup.com is always EURO 5 - why haven't I ever thought of this!? You just need to make sure that the length will fit both you and her. Because I have a low cervix, I cut off all my stems. If I had a higher cervix and needed the stem intact, I personally would buy a Si-bell or Natu, because the stem is thinner, or any of the awesome long cups that will never fit me.

Fleurcup also has EURO 5 off promotions every few months, so if the cup works for you, you could always get a back-up or a different color when they send you the coupon code (we also post it on mc-sales). That's how I ended up with 3 Fleurcups - I just can't resist their promotions ;)
perigrineperigrine on February 23rd, 2014 10:51 am (UTC)
move_nz on February 23rd, 2014 10:59 am (UTC)
Yeah, I had seen that too. Initially I had looked for another brand so didn't take that in consideration. Also couldn't actually tell the brand of the cheaper ones and therefore thought I would go with the cheaper ordering options from abroad. And then I found out hoooww many options there were and didn't even look at trademe again...
Luceafaraluceafara on February 23rd, 2014 03:53 pm (UTC)
That's because the cheaper ones are no-names. The Divas and Moon Cups are the only brand names on that site.
super top secret7deadlysins on February 24th, 2014 02:00 am (UTC)
I didn't particularly like the Moon Cup - it worked fine, it pops open pretty easy and doesn't leak, but it just has a pretty wide rim around the top and then another ridge under that, that I found a little uncomfortable to put in and take out. And the stem was irritating no matter what length so I just cut it off. As far as I can tell the "small" Moon Cup is about the same size as most other brands' "large" size. Based on your description I would probably say go with the smaller size. The difference in between sizes is usually just mere millimeters.

If you want to try the Gladrags Moon Cup, I could send you the one I have (size B, the smaller one) if you could just cover the cost of shipping? I just got a new Sckoon cup and have a Fleurcup on the way, so I don't need the Moon Cup anymore :)