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Hi everyone,

(Semi)long time lurker, first time poster here. I'd heard about menstrual cups from an LJ friend years ago, but didn't consider them for myself until a few months ago. The whole insertion process worried me (I tried tampons once, couldn't get it in, and gave up) because I have low tolerance for pain, so when I finally decided to take the plunge, I went for the softest and tiniest cup -- the soft mini S MeLuna (with a stem base). After many many tries, I finally managed to insert the cup -- somehow, it hurt more when I tried inserting from the front? More pinching! I ended up having to insert by reaching back around my hip, which is a really awkward position. Does anyone else insert this way? Also, I have no idea if/when it pops open because I can't really feel it anymore after it moves beyond the entrance. /o\

Anyway, the first time I managed to insert it, I removed it again within a few seconds, by tugging on the stem because I couldn't reach the base of the cup with more than one finger. The second time (different cycle), I left it in for 2-3 hours and again had to remove by tugging on the stem (and making my bathtub look like the scene of a bloody murder). I'm guessing it was sitting a bit low because the stem felt pokey at times.

The third time I tried it was yesterday, and everything seemed to go smoothly -- inserted on the second try! couldn't feel it at all! -- right up until I wanted to remove it. I spent more than ten minutes in the bathtub trying everything I could to get it out. I think the stem was tucked behind some flesh (labia?)? I could brush my finger against the base of the stem once I found where it was tucked, but there was no way I could grasp even the edge of the stem with both my thumb and forefinger (I attempted and there was a lot of pinching). I could touch the base of the cup with my forefinger after some manoeuvring and I tried pressing against it (I may have been pressing it agains the front walls given that I was still doing the awkward reach around my hip), but that didn't seem to break the seal at all. After a lot of squirming around and bearing down, I was able to get my thumb and forefinger to pinch the very end of the stem and tug the cup out.

I'm thinking of purchasing a soft M MeLuna since it's not much wider than the mini S (given how much trouble I had with insertion, I'm not sure if I would like anything much wider), and it's 8mm longer, so it might be easier to reach? Are most of you guys able to reach the base of your cup with your thumb and forefinger (i.e. is my cup too short for me)? Is the base of the cup supposed to sit near the entrance of the vagina (and the ball/ring/stem tucked in the labia?)? I've seen a lot of advice to keep trying with the cup you have until you've mastered the insertion/removal process, but I'm concerned about getting the cup "stuck" again.

I really hope I can find a cup that works for me! :> I was marvelling at how comfortable it was to use the cup last night (up until the point I wanted to take it out, lol) compared to using pads.

Oh! Also, how long are you supposed to boil the cup for? Can you just soak it in boiled water for a few minutes?
 
Luceafaraluceafara on February 13th, 2014 12:37 am (UTC)
Hi, congrats to finding cups. :)

The mini S Meluna is definitely for people with a low cervix, like myself. I have a ton of cups, including the soft mini S Meluna with stem, and I can personally reach the base, but also had times when I could not easily reach it when I was sexually aroused, without some bearing down or waiting a bit for my cervix to get back down.
The cup will naturally travel to sit around your cervix, so wherabouts the base of it is, depends on how high your cervix is.

Because your specific cup is so soft, you need to break the seal before you can remove it, unless you don't mind the discomfort of suction. To break the seal, you have to pinch the base. To be able to pinch the base, you need to be able to reach it. So, whether the M meluna would fit depends on whether it would be long enough for you. It is not long enough for high cervix peeps.
I'd insert a finger to see how far you can reach, then look at the various size charts to see which cup would fit the bill on your case.
The small Si-bell is equally soft and the Felircup has the same shape as the Meluna M and Si-bell, but is firmer.

You can boil the cup for a few mins, but watch it! I fell asleep with my first cup, a soft Meluna, on the stove and woke up from the horrid smell. I had to throw away a very expensive pot and the half melted cup and a strainer, so now I microwave my cups.

Good luck...

ETA: here are some pictures that show them side by side:
http://menstrual-cups.livejournal.com/3124027.html

Edited at 2014-02-13 12:41 am (UTC)
offdayoffoffdayoff on February 13th, 2014 03:52 am (UTC)
Thanks for the tips! This is going to sound ridiculous, but I'm not sure if I've been able to locate my cervix -- either it's too high for me to reach (unlikely?) or I don't know what I'm looking for. I'll try again and see if I can figure out what length works the best for me!

Are soft cups more difficult to break the seal/remove compared to stiffer ones?
Luceafaraluceafara on February 13th, 2014 05:20 am (UTC)
See how far you can get a finger in. The thing your finger hits that stops it from going further in is your cervix. If you can't even reach it, it's high.

I don't think softer cups are harder to remove per se, but the soft Melunas only have two airholes vs. 4 or 6, and they are tiny holes. I think that's why the suction may be harder to break.

A soft cup like the Si-bell is very easy to remove, due to its 4 large airholes, pliability, and design, reportedly even by at least one high cervix user on here, who just pulls the stem without breaking the seal first. I cut my stem off on mine, so I grab it by the base.

Also, correction in my previous answer: "Felircup" is a typo; I meant Fleurcup.

Edited at 2014-02-13 05:21 am (UTC)
offdayoffoffdayoff on February 13th, 2014 05:30 am (UTC)
~6 cm or so in, and all I could feel was more flesh, so I'm guessing my cervix is pretty far up! The S Fleurcup and the S Si-bell are both a teeny bit shorter than the M (regular, not mini) MeLuna according to the size chart, so I'm starting to think that I need to look into even longer ones, like the S Yuuki -- or even the S Keeper?
teacupcake89 on February 13th, 2014 02:53 pm (UTC)
don't forget the size chart is length without the stem, and the si-bell and fleurcup have much longer stems than the meluna, similar to the small yukki etc.

have a look at what they really look like here next to each other: http://www.femininewear.co.uk/comparison-photos-49-w.asp and here: http://menstrualcups.friendhood.net/f52-moderator-s-photo-library
offdayoffoffdayoff on February 14th, 2014 03:40 am (UTC)
Ah, that's true -- I hadn't taken the stems into consideration. Thanks!
Luceafaraluceafara on February 13th, 2014 04:04 pm (UTC)
What teacupcake89 said ;)