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05 February 2014 @ 04:19 pm
I've been seriously considering trying to use a cup when I'm not on my period because my mucus flow is extremely heavy and it seems like using the cup would be easier than having to change a pantyliner every couple hours. I hate how gross pantyliners feel but I can't go without them. I go through an entire pack in about 2 weeks and would love to not have to even use then (like most of my friends are able to). I'd love to not have to smuggle one to the bathroom every time. I know a lot of people here recommend cloth pantyliners but as good as they sound, I don't think they'd work for me as I'd need to carry at least 5 or 6 with me to school everyday and have a good way to carry the dirty ones around in my bag. So, instead I've been thinking about using a smaller cup everyday (probably my ladycup or possibly a xs/s meluna) and then my regular cup (diva 1) during my period, and then just ditching pantyliners all together. But I have no idea if this is even a remotely good idea in reality or if anyone here has tried it before. I'd ask my doctor but I'm currently in Japan for at least a year (probably longer) and I'm not sure about finding a doctor here (and asking for help in Japanese). Any advice or opinions would be greatly appreciated. 
 
..::bella vita::..por_que_no on February 5th, 2014 07:51 am (UTC)
I know at least a couple members here wear their cups daily for related reasons, so as long as you're rinsing and reinserting at least daily, it should be fine--it's not like germs can grow on silicone anyway :) I've used my cups for mid-cycle spotting a couple of times (it doesn't happen for me every month but if it's around that time and maybe I want to wear my white bikini, I'll pop it in just in case) - the only complication I can think of is that your cervix may be higher or lower than it normally is on your period so if yours moves around a lot you may need a cup with a different length.
hinata42691hinata42691 on February 5th, 2014 08:04 am (UTC)
I might give it a try at some point then. Once I figure out what works best for non-period days, do you think it might be a good idea to make sure I have 2 of it (wear one and clean the other so it has time to air in between)?
So far I've only used a cup (diva1) for 2 periods (I got it for Christmas) but I've actually started looking forward to my period because I don't have to change as often and can go without pantyliners without ruining my underwear. Therefore, I'm not really sure what my cervix does over the course of the month... I can tell that during the heaviest part of my period it seems to be fairly high and that at the end of my period it's low enough that the diva starts feeling a bit too long. Right before my period (when spotting starts) it's higher than at the end of my period but not as high as during. I have a ladycup s but have avoided it because it was hard to grip to pull it down from my high cervix and couldn't hold enough. I've been looking at the meluna mini s because it's small like the ladycup but looks like it would be easier to grip and supposedly pops open nicely.
Kai: 57vs40mmkuradi8 on February 5th, 2014 02:06 pm (UTC)
Go to the Community FAQ and compare the dimensions of your Diva, Ladycup and the others that you're interested in. If you think that the small Ladycup is too short to reach then why would you consider even shorter cups like the small Meluna Mini? Look at my user-pic to see one side by side with a Diva.

If it fits you best, then it's OK to wear your "high capacity" Diva even though it's not collecting any significant amount. It's not like you're "wasting" its capacity.

Lousy Analogy: If you have size-7 feet, then wear size-7 shoes. Don't pick size-5 beach sandals because you don't need much protection or size-9 storm boots because it's cold and snowy out there.

Edited at 2014-02-05 02:06 pm (UTC)
..::bella vita::..por_que_no on February 5th, 2014 03:26 pm (UTC)
I don't think you need to rotate cups out--although I have 2 cups anyway (a Si-Bell and a Lily) and find the Lily easier to grab and remove when I'm not on my period and my cervix is super high. I wouldn't try the Meluna though...it sounds like your cervix is high enough that removal would be a nightmare like it was for me and the Meluna Classic!
Serpent: neutralserpent_849 on February 5th, 2014 07:55 am (UTC)
any idea if you might have a health issue causing the excessive mucus? is it always so thick, not just during ovulation? it's supposed to change throughout the cycle.

also, don't get the tiniest cups for this. if you're able to use a diva, you probably have a fairly high cervix, so that you'd have to bear down a lot to remove the cup. (and the ladycup can be very slippery!) use your existing cup to figure out which one you need for off-period use. see whether your diva fits you, and if it happens to be too long, flip it inside out. it'll be 51-52 mm long so see if this length fits you. for added comfort you can get something soft and narrow, that's more important than length.

oh and one more option could be regular cloth pads rather than pantyliners. this way you'd not have to change them so much. and this might sound gross, but you can also let a cloth liner dry and put it there again. it's not like it's actually dirty, more like wet?
hinata42691hinata42691 on February 5th, 2014 08:09 am (UTC)
I haven't been to the doctor about it yet. I've wanted to but every time I'd mention wanting to go to my mom she told me it was normal and nothing to worry about. It's heavy throughout the month and I hate feeling it come out. It's almost like having a very light period for 3 weeks (mucus instead of blood) and then my period for a week...
I've thought about cloth pads but I hate the wet feeling so I'd need to change to a dry one every time I go to the bathroom (also putting a wet one back on gives me the shivers both for cleanliness factors and how it feels (I don't even like putting a wet bathing suit back on after going to the bathroom)).
I already have a diva1 and a ladycup s so I'll try those first and see how it goes.
Serpent: neutralserpent_849 on February 5th, 2014 08:24 am (UTC)
i didn't mean putting a wet one back, i mean letting it dry in your bag first.
oh, if you already have a ladycup, give it a try! keep tp or tissues nearby for drying your hands during removal.

also, it's very likely to be nothing worth worrying about, but if it bothers you, it's definitely a good idea to see if there's anything you can do. explain to your mum that you're more annoyed than worried.
hinata42691hinata42691 on February 5th, 2014 08:38 am (UTC)
I'll certainly keep them in mind but I'm not sure I have enough money to buy enough for daily use (since I'd need at least 5-6, maybe more depending on how fast they dry overnight).
I'll try to talk to her again about it and see if maybe I can make an appointment in December when I come home for Christmas (I'm studying abroad in Japan until then).
Thank you :)
eccentrgrl on February 5th, 2014 12:13 pm (UTC)
Hi, I honestly think that disposable pantyliners (they don't let the area breathe) mess with the vaginal pH and keep the environment too moist so that you end up in a vicious cycle of losing too much discharge.

I would really recommend getting rid of the disposable pantyliners all the way and give your vagina time to restore its flora to normal, which could take a while.

I am not on the pill and go through cycles of different discharge. I am also never completely dry but it goes from almost all dry to sticky to creamy to egg white... just depending on where I am in my cycle.

On the days of heavy discharge, I like to use organic cotton rounds (you know, for removing make up) sort of as an absorbent interlabial gauze. You just have to fold the disc in half and place it between the labia at the vaginal exit. It may feel funny at first, but you will get used to it soon. You won't feel anything "running out" anymore, nor wetness in your underwear. Of course change it every time you go to the bathroom and make sure you clean the area well (I like using castor oil), but I generally don't feel like fibers are left behind.

Good luck.
Jennifer Monoteasy2begreen on February 5th, 2014 03:42 pm (UTC)
I sometimes have a cup in mid-cycle to catch discharge and it works really well. My go-to cup for this purpose is the Meluna mini small soft, which is super comfortable. However, it is quite a short cup even with the full stem option. I don't think my cervix is as high as yours, but the mini rides up high enough that I have to use the stem to tug it down. I just noticed that the stem on my Meluna is starting to crack a bit and wonder if I'll be able to use it if/when it breaks off. Maybe a small Si-Bell would be the solution? Long stem, soft, smallish cup. Also, as far as keeping it clean, I take it out at night, give it a rinse, and pop it in some hydrogen peroxide overnight. In the morning, it's clean and ready to use again.
Luceafaraluceafara on February 5th, 2014 11:19 pm (UTC)
I've been using cups every day since I discovered them last year, with no ill effects, and I only change mine once a day, in the shower.

Not knowing what amount of discharge is healthy, and whether or not you may want to see a doctor, I can tell you that I could never NOT use a pantyliner, and sometimes even needed two per day. Now, I plop in a cup in the shower, and I'm good until the next shower. It's very liberating, there is no more wetness and no more smell. It changed my life so much!!

Someone here recommended rotating at least two cups to prevent funky smells, and I follow that recommendation and agree that it's the best way to aerate the cup between uses, especially when used continuously (since it doesn't get a break between periods).

Great cups that may work for you are, as others have noted, the small Si-bell, maybe the small Fleurcup, depending on your measurements (I have them both). Since I have a low cervix, I can also use all sizes of Melunas, and have a thing for my Mini S ones off-period: they may not at all work for you, but I like that they are sooo tiny and disappear from my thoughts until I remember to take them out. I just wish someone made this size/shape out of silicone.

Now, when I look at what has accumulated in the cup after 24 hours, I can't believe I managed to live without it for so long.

I know cloth pads work for some, but there is just something psychological about feeling the wetness on cloth that may not work for others - cups are the solution! With the cups, it's as if you just came out of the shower!

Just do it! ;)

Edited at 2014-03-06 02:48 am (UTC)
hinata42691hinata42691 on February 6th, 2014 04:51 am (UTC)
Thank you all so much for the input!
I've currently got my diva in and it seems fine in terms of length but I'm not sure it'll end up working as an everyday cup - it is super super stubborn when it comes to popping open when I'm not at the heaviest part of my period (which is part of why I was thinking of a smaller cup). Do any of you have suggestions for a cup that would be similar length to the diva but (maybe) narrower and stiffer at the rim (to open more easily)?
Luceafaraluceafara on February 6th, 2014 06:43 am (UTC)
Probably not stiffer at the riim, but the Si-bell, which is super soft, opens without fail because of the way it is designed, with four vertical ridges and four large holes. It's a very nice cup.
hinata42691hinata42691 on February 6th, 2014 07:24 am (UTC)
I might give that one a try since I seem to have trouble getting cups to pop open and it's a similar size to the diva. Thanks :)
hinata42691hinata42691 on February 7th, 2014 02:15 am (UTC)
Update
Thank you all so much for all the advice and support!
I just changed it this morning and since I put it in yesterday I was able to go without pantyliners for the first time since probably 8th grade!
I definitely don't think I can go with a shorter cup (such as my ladycup) because my cervix was so high I had trouble reaching the diva even while bearing down as hard as I could (managed to get it out without trouble other than that though)...
Another thing I learned that I'll now have to look out for: my body doesn't like underwear seams at all. It got so annoyed at me that I had to put a pantyliner on today just to make it so I could wear this pair (yesterday's was seamless)... Guess it's time to find some new undies (lol)?
Thank you all again so much! This site and the people here are amazing. I don't really have anyone I can talk to about all this and would probably have long given up without the support. I'll keep experimenting and figuring out what works best.
Luceafaraluceafara on February 12th, 2014 04:52 am (UTC)
Re: Update
I missed your update. So glad this is working out for you, and good luck finding a good second cup!

I totally know how you feel. Heck, I still get excited every time I take my cup out.
bazinga_91 on May 14th, 2014 11:31 pm (UTC)
Hi, I just stumbled over this post and although it´s a few months old, I thought I´d comment in case it might help you:

Do you take the pill? Because I used to take it for several years (started to take it when I was 13 as I had BAD acne and it helped with that) and slowly but surely I started getting more and more mucus flow. It was horrible - so bad, when I went swimming and couldn´t wear panty liners, I would wear a mini tampon (I didn´t know about cups back then)! It was controlling my life :/.
Eventually I stopped taking the pill and I´m so glad I did because now I´m fine! I still get a little bit sometimes but not to a degree that would bother me in any way :).

I just thought I´d share in case it helps :).

Edited at 2014-05-14 11:32 pm (UTC)
hinata42691hinata42691 on May 15th, 2014 02:59 am (UTC)
Hi, late replies are always welcome :)

I took the pill from age 13 until about 1.5-2 years ago. I stopped taking it mainly because I kept forgetting to take the pills. I started on the pills back in 8th grade when my period came because they were super heavy and I had horrible cramps (I would miss school for 1-2 days everytime my period came). After coming off the pills my cramps got bad again (they calmed down on the pill) and I was seriously tempted to go back on. Thankfully though, even though my mucus level is really high still, my cramps are decreasing again (my last period was practically cramp free).
hinata42691hinata42691 on May 15th, 2014 03:09 am (UTC)
Update
I've been using my cup (or one of them since I alternate them) daily for almost 3 months now and it's been amazing. I usually still end up wearing a pantiliner because (depending on the cup/day) I sometime have a bit of leaking, but it's definitely reduced the number I've been using. There have been 2 separate weeks where I gave my body a rest from the cup (usually because I was too busy with school/work to remember to care for it properly). Going back to just pantiliners after the relief of the cup made me realize just how much help it's been. I've also decided that if my mucus flow is still this heavy when I go home for Christmas/New Year's, I might see if I can go see the doctor. I generally change the cup every ~24 hours in the shower and my diva cup is usually between 1/3-1/2 full... The Si-bell works second best (and handles my period and off-days well) and is usually 1/2-2/3 full in the same period (granted it's smaller). The Sckoon holds about the same as the Si-bell but leaks like crazy for me so it's more as back-up at this point. My lady cup really is just too short and too small to handle much of anything from me... Overall though I'm really pleased that I can use a cup everyday. I'm looking forward to summer where I can wear a swimsuit and not have to worry about getting it all gross. Also, another plus: since switching to wearing a cup every day my period cramps have been rapidly decreasing! This month was the first period in I can't remember how long when I had really light, barely noticeable cramps.