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01 February 2014 @ 05:25 pm
Hello fellow cuppers!

I am new to this community, although I've been in the shadows for a little while. The supportive feel of your posts and comments overwhelms me! I am about to order my first cup- and wanted a little guidance from more experienced users. I have looked through many posts, but haven't found a direct answer to my question. Please forgive me if it has already been addressed before though.

[My Journey thus far] I'm 25, no kids, 5'4" medium build, sexually active and very comfortable with my body and its functions. I have always had very painful cramping for 2-3 days. ( pain medication sometimes dulls the pain but never removes it. And normally I avoid meds, so they are mo potent when I break down and use them.)About 4 mos ago I had some worse than normal cramps, so bad that I couldn't function for 2 days, even with a fairly high pain tolerance. So I started doing research on reducing period pain. And stumbled across RUMPs. I was immediately intrigued. With further research into the dangers of disposables, I decided to ditch them completely. I have not used tampons since, and have only used some disposable pads I had on hand.

At the time I could not afford buying a reusable cup, so I bought Instead Softcups. (The disposables, although I have been reusing them for the length of my period) I have used them with some success. I have mastered inserting them, and know that they are in the right position. However I still have leaks with any muscle movement. (Urination, bowel movements, or even just changing body positions sometimes.) This seems logical to me since the thin plastic bag offers almost no resistance to my muscles. But having gotten comfortable with them, they are STILL better than tampons or pads. I am hoping that a reusable cups will fix my leaking problems.

After having weighed out size and price options, I have settled on a cup from Meluna. However I cannot decide on the firmness. The website recommends classic if you are new to cups. But I have heard of many people experiencing trouble with that firmness. Particularly trouble urinating while it is inserted and trouble removing due to the heavy suction. I believe that the insteads I have been using have a fairly firm rim. I am not overly worried about removal, I know that there will be a learning curve, but removing the soft cups (which sit much higher up) was a breeze for me, and while I know it is a completely different experience I am confident I will get the hang of it. (Eventually (-; )

So many users like the soft Melunas that I am unsure if that would be the better option. I certainly don't want any leaks which I know depends on getting a good seal. Basically I just don't know which one would be better for someone starting out. What do you think? Also do any of you have a stem you particularly prefer from Meluna? I'm leaning toward the ball stem, but would love to hear feedback!
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Lilianenurselily on February 2nd, 2014 01:58 am (UTC)
Re: new cup
I also have a high cervix, which cups would you suggest ?
Diva cup gets lost waaaaay up there lol
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Lilianenurselily on February 2nd, 2014 04:19 am (UTC)
Re: new cup
I'm interested in Natural Mamma, si-bell, love your body and the lily cup ..
Mostly due to their length.

So you can still reach your lunette??

Does it pop open easily?
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Lilianenurselily on April 4th, 2014 04:21 pm (UTC)
Re: new cup
So several weeks later:
I tried the natural mamma: It's great. Easy to pop open, don't feel it no leaks. I wish it had a better removal tool. I personally think its too flimsy. I would like it better if it was a long stem thicker and firmer.

I tried the medium classic meluna: ring stem: It's not as comfortable,the ring is easier to use to remove but I have ha leaks with it and problems opening it up.

Finally my favorite (goldilocks)Small Si-bell: Best one!! Pop's open easily, no leaks, easy removal due tu the nice thick stem.

Side note: None of the cups I tried got stuck way too high for my reach.
silentrebuke on February 2nd, 2014 06:48 am (UTC)
Re: new cup
Thank you so much! very helpful! I don't believe I have a very high cervix about 2 inches toward the end of my period, and lower in the beginning. So maybe they will still work? but I will def consider what you have said.
Thanks for the tip about leaking- I expected a little pink/red with peeing, but I def had more than that! it was more like everytime I went to the bathroom, and sometimes just with normal movements, I would have to remove and reinsert the cup to get it in the right spot again.. it would work its way down quite often. maybe that was more of a fit issue.
lacrymaslave on February 2nd, 2014 12:17 am (UTC)
I have only been using cups for a few cycles, but I find the ball stem of the Meluna much harder to use than a normal tab stem, for me it becomes too slippery and difficult to hang onto. Really regret not going with a ring or tab. Another thing I dislike about the Meluna is they don't hold their shape, with my lunette, fleur and sckoon, they all spring back perfectly round, but my Meluna classics have never been round since coming in the post squashed…I don't know if I just got dud stock or if TPE is just supposed to be like that?

Edited at 2014-02-02 12:25 am (UTC)
trejoytrejoy on February 2nd, 2014 03:05 am (UTC)
You're right, MeLunas don't bounce back easily after arriving in the mail. Mine eventually stopped being oval shaped after boiling several times, but I'm not sure TPE stands up to boiling as well as silicone long term. My cup got softer and softer as I boiled it monthly.
fee_parisienne on February 2nd, 2014 12:20 am (UTC)
I have two medium MeLunas. I like the ball-stem one for the first day of my period when my cervix is quite low, and find the one with the ring stem is easier to remove the rest of the time.

I didn't like the soft version at all when I tried it. It was the only cup I've ever had that really wouldn't work for me. I could not get the darn thing to quit leaking! Same size and shape as my other MeLunas, but I guess it kept getting collapsed inside of me or something. The TPE material that MeLunas are made out of is not as springy as silicone.

My favorite softer cup is a yellow CupLee. The MeLunas, however, are more reliably leak-proof if I'm out all day without access to a private bathroom.
silentrebuke on February 2nd, 2014 06:51 am (UTC)
That's what I was afraid of with the soft melunas. but I'm glad to know the classics work well for leak free days. thank you!
..::bella vita::..por_que_no on February 2nd, 2014 05:18 am (UTC)
What's your cervix height like? If you successfully used softcups I imagine it's on the high side...their diameter is like 3 inches right? So if you can fit it all in there and the cup basically lies on its side, your cervix must be at least 3 in high? Mine's about that and removing the ring stem Meluna was a 3 hour ordeal (involving quite a bit of vodka)...I'd stay far away from those. Si-Bell was my goldilocks. With the full stem I don't have to go spelunking for it and if you have a lower cervix you can cut as much of the stem as you like--it's the closest to a one-size-fits-all I can think of in the cup world!
silentrebuke on February 2nd, 2014 06:55 am (UTC)
thanks for the tips! My cervix is not quite that high, really only about 2 inches during my period. Since the softcups hook around my cervix it still worked. However I do think that my leaking issues may have been caused by this poor fit. I have heard so many people praise the si-bell tho I may just have to look into it.
Luceafaraluceafara on February 2nd, 2014 05:53 am (UTC)
I have Mini S, S and M Melunas in both classic and soft, and prefer the ball stem. I find it grippy enough to grab, and cut the stems off all my other cups anyway, due to my low cervix.

Classic Melunas are spingier, thus pop open once inserted without fail. They work better for me when I go running, but some LJers have reported the classic irritates their bladderr feels uncomfortable. The classic don't bother me, but I grab mostly the Mini S, which is tiny, so a classic large may be a completely different story.

Soft Melunas are less springy and, to pop them open, it is a good idea to hold them under cold water or dunk them in ice water, and to position one of the airholes inside the fold. I've had minor leakage when wearing soft Melunas and running.

My Melunas are a bit oval shaped as well, but that's due being crammed inside me for hours. It does not affect functionality in any way.
silentrebuke on February 2nd, 2014 06:59 am (UTC)
Thank you so much, this was so helpful! I am a runner also so I'm glad to have some advice on that. I think maybe I should avoid the softer cups for that reason, especially because for now I can't really purchase more than one.

Do you think your melunas are more oval shaped due to boiling at all? I wasn't really planning on boiling it after every cycle or anything, just when I felt it was really necessary.
Luceafaraluceafara on February 2nd, 2014 07:41 am (UTC)
Glad that helped, though you may never experience any leakage running with the soft Melunas yourself - everbody is so very different. Have you measured out whereabouts your cervix sits when on period? (See how far you can insert your finger, then measure it out.) As others have noted, this very much would affect your buying decision, especially since Melunas, which you are considering, don't have very long stem options.

About 40% of female athletes experience some form of stress incontinence when exercizing. I am part of those lucky ones, and found that the soft Melunas do not help in this respect, but that the classic cups do. Looking for a solution to this problem is actually how I discovered MCs, coming to think about it.

I never boil my cups after I forgot my first one on the stove and fell asleep (I know, I know...) and it melted and distroyed my WMF pot and the sieve it was sitting in. I think the oval shape is due to the material's ability to be somewhat molded into a different shape, unlike Silicone, which pops back into its original form. If it bothers you, you can just press the two opposite sides of the oval together to make it round again.

Other cups tested:
I've never gone running with my Si-bel, but I have with my Fleurcup, which makes a bomb-proof seal in any situation, including running.

Edited at 2014-02-02 07:51 am (UTC)
silentrebuke on February 3rd, 2014 05:08 am (UTC)
I know this sounds silly, but I keep forgetting to measure my cervix on the first day or two of my period when it sits at its lowest. :P However by about day 3-4 it is right around 55mm. That doesn't seem very high to me, since I can easily reach it, but looking at the size charts it seems high/long? Am I reading those right?
I guess when I picked out the Melunas (M or L) I was thinking mainly about making sure my vagina wasn't too short for them, but not really concerned with them wandering upwards and possibly being difficult to reach. I was hoping to rely on muscles to move it down a little if i needed to, but is that too much for a beginner?
I too have stress incontinence, but mainly only when sneezing/ coughing. I really thought it was something I would just have to deal with, but I'm very intrigued that you say your MC helps with this. I do kegels regularly but really haven't noticed any improvement. I'm not yet quite ready to lower caffeine though, I rely on my coffee!
Luceafaraluceafara on February 3rd, 2014 01:43 pm (UTC)
The medium Meluna is 48 mm without the stem, the mini M 40 mm, so you should be good with any Meluna size LENGTHWISE, since even if it sits 1.5 cm up, you can still reach it. And yes, you can rely on your mucles to push it back down on a high cervix day, if you can absolutely not reach it.

I thought I'd just have to deal with it when running, sneezing, jumping as well, then I started researching it, and saw that some runners use tampons, which keeps the bladder in place or somesuch. There is even a silicone tampon exactly for that. I tried running with tampons, and it worked, but dried me out off period. Then I read about a marathoner using a cup when racing on period, because it needs less frequent changing, put two and two together, and found this awesome community. The rest is history :)

You can wear them every day, which will hopefully put sneezing/caughing issues at rest, and classics are the way to go, if the firmness does not bother you. Only thing I'd recommend for continuous use is having at least two and rotating them, so they can get clean and dry in between-uses, but I see you were only going to get one, so maybe later down the road. Keep in mind that when ordering from meluna.org, the prices you see include the 19% sales tax, which gets substracted from the purchasing price once you enter your address, if shipping is outside the EU.

MCs have totally changed my life!

Edited at 2014-02-03 01:51 pm (UTC)
silentrebuke on February 3rd, 2014 03:17 pm (UTC)
Thank you so much!! If I do settle on the Meluna, I MAY be able to get two, they have a starter kit deal right now, a little discounted and you get two different sizes. Very appealing since I'm not 100% sure on sizing. I think I just let myself get unsure by some comments on what a "high" or "low" cervix means. Getting a ruler out and really looking at the size of these cups in relation to my finger helped set my mind at ease.

The idea of my new cup possible helping with my stress incontinence is the cherry on top! I didn't think that I could get more excited than I already was :)
Luceafaraluceafara on February 3rd, 2014 05:55 pm (UTC)
Can't wait to hear how you are going to make out!
silentrebuke on July 13th, 2014 05:36 am (UTC)
Just an update, I got a Medium Meluna Classic.
I am now on my fourth cycle with it, and I couldn't be happier! I feel like i have gotten past the learning curve (lets hope!) i never have any trouble inserting or removing it, and this cycle have used no backup cloth pads because i have had no leaking problems.
While the cup is in I have had no stress incontinence either! I have not yet started using more often than just on my periods, but maybe I will during allergy season. Haha.
Thank you so much for your help and advice!
Luceafaraluceafara on July 13th, 2014 03:02 pm (UTC)
So happy to hear that the classic works for you and that it relieved SI! Welcome to the rest of your life. A period with a well fitting cup is such a different experience than without one!