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16 January 2014 @ 12:21 pm
Sorry if I mess up this post some how... my first time on livejournal! Been stalking this community for a while, and I thought I had my cup figured out. But this cycle has been so frustrating !

I own two cups both the small size (Diva and Sckoon). I'm 23 no children. The Diva was the first cup I bought and my first cycle I used to the whole time- no leaks, no issues at ALL. perfect. Not even residual slobber, never had to wear a panty-liner. Honestly, after using the INSTEAD softcups I found diva cup very easy. Towards the end of that cycle, I had a bit of difficulty getting the Diva to open inside me easily- it always opened but it took a bit of coaxing. That's what made me buy the Sckoon, I figured since it was smaller it would open easier, which turned out to be true. It opens a bit easier than my Diva - I think the smaller size, and the rim of the Sckoon is slightly firmer than the Diva.

The second cycle I used both the Diva and Sckoon no issues- Diva only leaked on my first day when I think it got over full, (when I took it out it was about 3/4 full) and probably was almost completely full before the leak. Other than that no leaking with either- and I started using the 7-fold for inserting both cups. (I had been using the punch-down and C-fold previously). I would insert either cup just until the rim was in the entrance of my vagina, then unfold the folded 7 with my thumb or forefinger- then it would fill with air and I would push it into place while it was open. That worked flawlessly for the rest of that cycle and I thought I had it figured out.

This cycle not so much. I started off using the Diva, and using 7-fold like I had been. The first day I had lots of residual slobber and would feel a gurgle or bubbling. In the evening the Diva cup leaked red. Upon removal I saw the cup was only half full, if that. So I emptied and reinserted and an hour and a half later another leak, again the cup only 1/4 full. The gurlging made me think I was not getting a good seal with the Diva, so I switched to the Sckoon for the night and didn't use the 7-fold. I used C-fold and made sure to squish all the air out of the bottom before inserting. No leaks over night, used the sckoon all day no leaks. In the evening I decided to switch back to the Diva to see if I could get it to work. Before doing so I cut the stem completely off so It could sit lower, (I thought maybe a better seal if it can sit lower, maybe dangling cervix? - although my cervix is higher so I think its unlikely). I also used the c-fold squishing all the air out.... I got about 5 hrs of leak free doing this! BUT - before bed I had some bubbling, and clear brown slobber, then a few minutes later red blood. AGAIN when I removed the cup only 1/4 or 1/2 full. So I switched back to the Sckoon, the only leaks I've ever had with the Sckoon is some brown/clear discharge- resembling residual slobber.

When I insert either cup, I always make sure they are open fully. I insert pointing towards my tailbone, and I keep my cups sitting fairly low and they don't tend to move around or ride up. Normally I also try and give them a little tug or a turn to make sure they are snug. I think my problem with the 7-fold was too much air being let inside and it didn't make a good seal, But I just can't understand why the Diva isn't working now that I've switched back to the c-fold....especially since my last two cycles were so successful.

Any input would be amazing, sorry for the novel.
Kai: 2Cupskuradi8 on January 16th, 2014 06:04 pm (UTC)
At 57mm long, the Diva is one of the longest cups made, and it sounds like it's just borderline too long for you -- hence the gurgling and leaking.

But the small Sckoon's capacity isn't quite that of the Diva's. Plus, as a significantly shorter cup, it's possible that your cervix is "dangling" into it and reducing its capacity even more.

So your Diva is too long and your Sckoon isn't up to the task. What now? (Insert panicked face here.) =8oO

Have no fear... there is a solution! =8oD

Flip your Diva inside out. It will shorten the cup so it will fit better without clobbering much capacity.
sunnybeebop on January 16th, 2014 07:41 pm (UTC)
I think you could be right, it just confuses me as to why it worked so well the last two cycles and not this one. My flow is not heavier than the others...and I seem to be getting more residual slobber from both cups this cycle- but only outright leaking from the Diva. I'd still try turning the Diva inside out to see if it makes a difference. It just seems like it is a seal issue to me...or maybe a combination of the two. Especially since I've been able to fill the Diva to a much higher capacity with no leaks in the past.
Kai: 2Cupskuradi8 on January 16th, 2014 08:02 pm (UTC)
Your body is different this time. No biggie. Or maybe you're just having one of "those" periods when your cups just refuse to cooperate. They happen sometimes.
elisamba on January 16th, 2014 07:43 pm (UTC)
The holes could be clogged (particularly likely if your flow is thick or clotty). Try giving them a good clean with a denture pick. And if necessary, you can try widening the holes - edited to correct: there are no hole-widening tips on the side bar, but you can search the site and find them.

Here's my understanding: if the holes are clogged, the air pressure builds up inside the cup instead of gradually escaping through the holes, and the next gush of blood, having nowhere to go, opens up a little channel beside the cup.

Edited at 2014-01-16 07:46 pm (UTC)
Kai: 2Cupskuradi8 on January 16th, 2014 08:04 pm (UTC)
Good point! The Diva's holes are notoriously tiny. (I don't know about the Sckoon's.) Some people have had good luck after enlarging them. The holes on the cup with the largest holes are 2mm. Something like a piercing punch will probably leave a less ragged hole than scissors or a drill bit.
sunnybeebop on January 16th, 2014 08:16 pm (UTC)
Yes quite true. They are a lot smaller than the Sckoon's holes! Thanks for the advice both of you :)
missmojorisin71missmojorisin71 on March 14th, 2014 10:26 pm (UTC)
Yes, I love my SckoonCup holes for this reason. They are easy to clean, just by using water and soap. I too had a Diva Cup and it didn't fit me correctly, no matter what I tried. The holes clogged on me quite a few times.
..::bella vita::..por_que_no on January 17th, 2014 01:01 am (UTC)
Yup...this happened with my Si-Bell the other day. But to be fair, I hadn't changed it in close to 24 hours (my flow seemed to slow way down and then, apparently, pick up again)...one of maybe 2 times it's ever leaked.