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13 January 2014 @ 05:20 pm
I am 13, and I got my first period 4 days ago. I learned about menstrual cups in school about a month ago, and I was very interested, as all of my friends said periods were horrible. As I did more research, I was hooked onto it! Everyone said it was comfy and did the job better than anything else, as long as you got the right brand.
I checked my cervix distance, and it sits about 2 inches in. I have medium/heavy flow, and am 5'2". I tried tampons, and they seem ok, though the first insertion was tough. I am looking into getting the lunette, but I think for my first cup, I need something nice and soft and easy to insert.
Is lunette soft enough? Should I use meluna, sckooncup, ladycup, or iriscup instead? Any recommendations?
Are menstrual cups comfortable enough, will insertion hurt, because it hurt a little for tampons? I know I should relax, but it was still hard...
Are there any fold recommendations which make it thin as possible (as thin as a tampon), as well as easy to pop open, like half-diamond, punch-down, seven/triangle, origami, or double seven?

Thanks soooo much!
 
Kai: 2Cupskuradi8 on January 13th, 2014 11:15 pm (UTC)
Since you're new to your period, don't rush into a cup purchase yet. Take your time to get to know how your body reacts. It will probably take a few cycles to stabilize. In the mean time, do a little self-exploration and read the guidelines at the Community FAQ. Figure out which cups you think will fit/suit you best. Just because you're young doesn't necessarily mean you have to get the tiniest one. In other words, don't be afraid of length if you think you'll need it.

While you're at the FAQ, also read the Virgin's Guide to Cups. Read the replies to questions about insertion and removal. And if you have more questions, ASK!

Then once you do get a cup, you don't have to commit to it 100%. It's perfectly OK to mix and match internal, external, disposable and reusable products depending on your needs or just your mood.

Since your parent(s) (assume Mom) will have to order a cup for you, also give her time to look into and learn about cups. Chances are that she doesn't know about them and "You want a WHAT???" And who knows? Maybe she'll want one too. On the other hand, she might just say "NO!" and refuse to talk about it more -- so be prepared for that too. (Give her a couple of weeks and try again.)
amalicious4 on January 13th, 2014 11:18 pm (UTC)
My mom knows, and she is ok with it, as long as it is not TOO expensive (lunette price was like the limit)
Kai: 2Cupskuradi8 on January 13th, 2014 11:41 pm (UTC)
Ah, good that your Mom is on board. There are over 30 (!!!) brands plus knock-offs now. Assuming you're in the US, a Lunette is about $40 with shipping so that puts it at the middle of the pack for price.

But don't let price determine what you'll get. Pick what you think will fit and suit you best. Length is probably most important. Shape (pointy, blunt, narrow, full, flared, not, etc) also plays a big role. Rim width is less important than you'd think. And stiff/squishy -- there are pros and cons to each.

There are many other cups with nearly identical dimensions to the Lunette that you like -- some cheaper, some not -- with slightly different shapes and other features. Compare them all.

The only cup we tend to discourage newbies from is the small Lady Cup. For very similar dimensions, there are other cups with higher capacities. And it has a reputation for being very slick and therefore hard to remove.


Edited at 2014-01-13 11:43 pm (UTC)
amalicious4 on January 13th, 2014 11:56 pm (UTC)
I'm not sure if my mom would let me get two cups, because one is pretty expensive anyway. Seems like my first/last cup has to be my goldilocks!
I was thinking of either the sckooncup or the lunette. I don't want something so stiff you can feel it, but I think leaking is a problem with softer cups, so lunette seems good, but many people recommend sckooncup. I think that I will have problems with insertion if the rim is too wide or the cup is too stiff. Anyone with both?
Also, the dimensions for the small sizes are similar (lunette is a bit bigger). How about the stiffness?
What about the fleurcup?
lol so many questions ;P

Edited at 2014-01-14 12:29 am (UTC)
..::bella vita::..por_que_no on January 14th, 2014 12:01 am (UTC)
Welcome! Like everyone said above, your cycle may change a lot in the first few months while your body finishes going through puberty. I was 12 1/2 at my first cycle and the first one was very light, then they became more moderate. I didn't try cups until last summer though (27!)--all those Hawaiian vacations would've been a lot more fun if I'd had a cup for the beach! So it's awesome that you've discovered cups now.

My favorite all-purpose cup is the Si-Bell and it's one of the softest out there--I fold it into the labia fold and it's no bigger than your thumb going in. I also like that it has a very long, but skinny stem, so it's easy to trim to whatever length you need (I have a pretty high cervix so I didn't cut anything off, but other members have cut the whole stems off). I would also highly recommend using coconut oil or KY Jelly as a lube (just nothing silicone-based or it will start to break down the cup). I prefer coconut oil because I can also use it as a shaving aid and it brings up fewer questions when people see it in your shower :P Just put it on yourself and not the cup, and apply it with the opposite hand from the one you're using to insert the cup...or your cup will pop out of your hand and you'll be chasing it all over the bathroom. Been there done that. lol

Best of luck!
mallt on January 14th, 2014 01:04 am (UTC)
Hi!
I'm one of those who has to cut the whole stem off... I use a small Lunette as it was about the only small cup you could buy at the time :)
I think you'll find it easier to insert the cup vs a tampon once you get the knack of keeping it folded... it's smooth side glide in more easily... but I am comparing it to a non-applicator style tampon.
My insertion method is using the origami fold (I found it the smallest & easiest to keep folded). I hold it folded with my middle finger (over the fold) & my thumb. I part my labia with one hand & insert with the fold facing down. I slide my finger in along side the cup to keep it closed. Once inserted I push my vagina wall away from the cup to give it room to open & provide an air channel so the cup can "inflate". A little pushing & wiggling of the cup gets it settled in place.
Hope that helps, good luck finding a cup that works for you.
amalicious4 on January 14th, 2014 01:21 am (UTC)
Thanks for the folding tips!
amalicious4 on January 14th, 2014 01:22 am (UTC)
Will use coconut oil (have some at home anyway). And also I will look into Si-Bell. Is it too soft though?
..::bella vita::..por_que_no on January 14th, 2014 05:04 am (UTC)
For me there's no such thing as too soft! I first tried the Meluna Classic, which is medium stiffness, and it pressed on my bladder so much that peeing was suddenly an ordeal (bad because I had a dr's appointment that day and had to give a urine sample). I think the Meluna Classic and Divacup are of similar stiffness. Some very soft cups can be hard to get "popped open" but the Si-Bell has a different design with some vertical ridges in it that help it open up, so between that and using a more elaborate fold, I've never had an issue with it popping open. Here's a great photo guide with different fold suggestions (including my favorite, the labia fold), written by a 14-year-old: http://menstrualcupforteens.wordpress.com/folds-and-insertion/
Serpent: neutralserpent_849 on January 14th, 2014 02:03 am (UTC)
i'm a virgin, 10 years older than you though ;) cup user since i was 20.
i think those complicated leaks (without an obvious reason) have a lot to do with your shape/fitness, and as far as i can tell it's quite rare for young users to report them. the length makes zero difference for insertion, so i'd advice against those "virgin cups". the friend who introduced me to cups used a mcuk as a virgin, and that one has a HUGE rim. i got the small lunette first but my anatomy is very unusual (insanely low cervix) so already on my second cycle i was using the large ladycup, and it was fine.

the folds you listed are all great. you may find that not all of them suit your cup or anatomy, though. i have to let my cup open as soon as the rim is in, so i can't use anything but the C-fold and what I call the 9 fold. btw read about the softness, but don't be discouraged, i just compiled a list of nearly everything you can do. pretty much everyone who sticks with it long enough (and has no medical condition making it difficult) eventually learns to insert a cup as fast as a tampon. (well, some people report a slow "steady" insertion taking up to 5 min, but it's very rare and once they get used to it, it's easier to just keep calm than fiddle with it and try to insert it faster)

speaking of tampons, i've never used them ;) you're going to know your body better than some virgins do. if it's really important to get the right cup from the beginning, try using applicator-free tampons for now. that's more similar to cups than those with an applicator.

also, i think it will be fair game to ask for one more cup if needed when your first one pays for itself (in a year maybe?)*. even if one just goes for what's available locally (especially the divacup), it's very common to be 80-90% satisfied with the cup and have no clue that there are so many options. most of us can use most cups, as it's said. unless your cup is horribly wrong for you, you'll be able to use it at least some of the time. for example my mum doesn't like using her cup at the end of her period, and she doesn't like the idea of sleeping with a cup inside. but she's still quite happy with her cup.
*since tampons are expensive, you could have a deal with mum that you use them as little as possible to save for a new cup. but that's very unlikely. i just know that in your situation i'd have found it comforting to know i still have options.

oh and consider getting cloth pads for now. you can even make your own. i don't think i'd have had the courage to use a cup at your age (and the available options wouldn't have worked for me), but i really wish i had known about cloth pads from the beginning.
Serpent: neutralserpent_849 on January 14th, 2014 02:15 am (UTC)
*some things might have been unclear. i think it's quite unlikely that a soft cup will leak. however, even the so-called stiff ones are still rather soft (are insteads sold where you live? ALL cups are softer than the rim of the insteads).

i agree about not reccing the ladycup. there are many similar cups that have a better capacity and aren't slippery. i think one of them should be a great option. those having similar dimensions to the small lunette or medium meluna (the name doesn't matter! honestly! i think it's much more common to use the tiny melunas for the light days only, not as the main cup. it should've been called XS, really. even the reseller contacted me to make sure i knew what i was getting).

as for tampons, they are quite different, i hope this is clear. in my case, one of the initial difficulties was learning to insert something that isn't my own finger. i've heard some tampon users need a mirror in the beginning :D so, that's basically the main thing you can learn from using tampons.
amalicious4 on January 14th, 2014 02:22 am (UTC)
Thank you! What about the fleurcup and the sckooncup?
Serpent: neutralserpent_849 on January 14th, 2014 02:52 am (UTC)
i don't know anything about the sckooncup :(
as for the fleurcup, look at the comparison pictures. it has a fairly unusual shape for example, so go with your gut feeling. does it *look* like it'll be comfortable?
the meluna also has a similar shape btw.

also note that i wasn't saying the lunette was a bad cup or anything. i was upset when i realized it didn't work for me, really. i'm more of an exception tbh. it's short, medium-stiff and has a surprising capacity ♥ but it's very individual really, there are no good cups or bad cups.
..::bella vita::..por_que_no on January 14th, 2014 05:06 am (UTC)
I've never inspected the fleur or Sckoon in person, but those two look very similar in shape to the Si-Bell...I think the Fleur is supposed to be a little stiffer but the Sckoon is nice and soft. I like the Sckoon's colors but would need a much longer stem, and the Si-Bell had that nice long stem and also came in a bright pink limited edition...so I couldn't resist :)
Jennifer Monoteasy2begreen on January 14th, 2014 03:42 pm (UTC)
The small Lunette was my first cup, and I could probably have stopped there. It's a nice middle-of-the-road cup, medium length (but long stem), medium capacity, medium squishy. I didn't quite like the hoop shape of it, which pressed on my bladder, but when I use it now, I don't really get that discomfort anymore, so maybe it was a matter of getting used to having a cup inside. I will say that I prefer my small LadyCup, even though it's lower capacity and a bit slippery. The slimmer V-shape of the cup and the firm rim that pops open every time work really well for me. I prefer both the Lunette and the LadyCup to the small Fleur. Something about the super pronounced grips on the base of the cup and the U shape make getting the thing out rather painful. I suppose I could file down the grips, but...eh, I prefer V-shaped cups.

One cup that might be worth looking into, although it is quite new, is the small Cuplee. Cuplees are very soft, V-shaped cups. I love my large Cuplee and never have any problems with it; the small is new but has a similar shape and softness. The only thing is that it isn't a very high capacity cup (a little higher than the small LadyCup? definitely less than the Lunette or the Fleur).
moonhoney925 on January 16th, 2014 03:49 am (UTC)
I think a good resource for you and your Mom is Teresa from Feminine Wear www.femininewear.co.uk. Teresa is based in the UK and sells a variety of cups as well as cloth pads and other accessories.

I'm sure she can recommend you a suitable cup.

Also if cost is a problem, just think of all the money your Mom will save on disposables. eg: if a Lunette is $40.00 (you can get them cheaper anyway) it will cost around $3.50 a month and you won't have to buy another. A pack of tampons cost about $5.50 per month which equals $66.00 for the year and then you'll have to keep purchasing them.
jojogirl89jojogirl89 on January 26th, 2014 08:02 pm (UTC)
Wow, I'm surprised you heard about cups at school, I found out one night when I got bored on youtube (it's surprising the things you find when just keep looking through the suggested videos on youtube). I'd suggest looking into the Sckoon cup since that's what I have and it is a softer cup and I felt that if it had been any firmer I would have had great trouble removing it since I'm so new to cups myself.

The most important thing you need to know when choosing a cup is where your cervix is located during your period so that you can get one that is the correct length. In addition to the Sckoon there are several others that are on the softer side.

If you feel like waiting to get a cup for you body to figure out how it's gonna normalize your cycle, you can always look into cloth pads if you're interested in reusable menstrual products AKA rumps. You can either buy them pre-made or find the right materials and make your own cloth pads. It probably wouldn't be that bad of an idea to have a pad or panty liner of some sort, whether its cloth or disposable, as a back up while you get used to cups.

Anyways, good luck with cups and hope you enjoy whatever
Luceafaraluceafara on January 30th, 2014 03:30 pm (UTC)
I'm so happy for you! All those years I could have had a cup, had I known about them! To start off with a cup almost makes me jealous of you, as you will avoid all the hardships like leakage and beach vacation issues. Good for you and your Mom to be in favor of cups.

I use Melunas, a S Si-bel, S Fleucups and have an S Natu as well.

The Si-bel, like already mentioned, is an awesome cup, because it's super super soft, has the vertical ridges and four airholes, which allow it to open easily despite its softness, and great capacity. Since it has a long but soft stem, your cervix can be high or low, as you can leve the stem intact or cut it off entirely, like I did.

The Fleurcup is the same shape and capacity. Due to its wall thickness, it is a bit less soft, but this also makes it pop open easily. I love them both a lot. I can't tell that the Fleurcup is less soft than the Si-bel when I wear it, but when I squish them in my hand it's obvious. You may have already gotten your cup by now, but if not, Fleurcup.com has a sale until tomorrow (use code "fleurcup"), which makes the cup about 20$ including shipping worldwide.

One thing I noticed is that some of my softer cups leak a tiny bit when I go running - never tried to run with my Si-bel, but my soft Melunas are not my cups of choice when I plan longer runs. In those cases, I grab the classic Melunas or the Fleurcup. This may be an inidividual problem, but I thought I'd share this just in case.

I use the C fold on all my cups, and I wear them every day. Unlike tampons, cups allow you to be prepared in case you are irregular.

Hope this helps, and congrats to the early discovery of cups.

Edited at 2014-01-30 03:32 pm (UTC)