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11 January 2014 @ 05:45 pm
I looked around but was unable to find an answer to my specific question, so if this has already been detailed elsewhere- deepest apologies and please send me that direction.

I'm a first time cup user (using the Lady Cup small) and today I tried to do my first insert. I was able to successfully insert it (a few times) but each time I release the cup it's epic suction time, and the cup wants to pull upward. I'm a little scared to let the cup do what it wants to do because my cervix is very high (I have never been able to reach it) and because I read this terrifying horror story and I do not want my menstrual cup to be suctioned to my cervix.

So my questions are:

-How will I know when my menstrual cup is properly inserted? There won't be any suction, correct?
-How do I get rid of the suction? Do I need to insert it higher/ let it pull itself up higher? Should I just let go completely, see what happens, and go from there? (I've been grabbing the stem and/or bottom, for fear of it going too high)

Additional details: I haven't been able to successfully complete a 360 turn, and as it feels like there is a vacuum in my uterus it's quite difficult remove the cup.

Summary: First time user read a horror story, is now scared of getting cup stuck inside of body.
..::bella vita::..por_que_no on January 13th, 2014 04:53 pm (UTC)
Don't feel like you need to do the 360-degree turn--they all say to do that but it's not necessary (I do like to turn my Femmycycle a bit because it allows the top to open up but the Femmy is not like most cups). With the story you linked, the probable reason that happened with the Diva is that the Diva has way-too-small suction holes--other posters have suggested enlarging the holes--plus it's quite stiff and IMO not the best beginner-one-size-fits-all cup.

I've also had a Lilycup suction itself to my cervix before (no suction holes at all, and its slanty design allows it to get right up onto the cervix) and all I had was a little bit of cramping--slightly annoying but not enough that I swore it off (I keep it around as a backup or for midcycle spotting when my cervix is up in my ribcage)

Edited at 2014-01-13 05:09 pm (UTC)
Lilianenurselily on February 2nd, 2014 02:26 am (UTC)
is the lily cup a good cup for a newbie with very high cervix?
..::bella vita::..por_que_no on February 2nd, 2014 04:37 am (UTC)
Very high, yes. Newbie, not so much--you will need to fiddle with it to get it to pop open. I think the learning curve is worth it if you'd have to go spelunking to retrieve any other cup, though! For me the Si-Bell is also long enough (after my cervix decided to hang a bit lower during my period a few months into my cup adventures) so I don't use my lily as often anymore, but if yours is any higher than mine and you are tight/narrow/short-fingered, you'll have very few options other than the lily.
Lilianenurselily on February 2nd, 2014 04:45 pm (UTC)
Seeing as you do not use your lily as often anymore would you be willing to sell it to me?
..::bella vita::..por_que_no on February 2nd, 2014 05:54 pm (UTC)
Re: Lily
In order to do so I would need to get a backup Si-Bell--full stem--I would be willing to trade if you have one. But I will only be on land for a couple more weeks before my next 4-month cruise ship job (and I would only have access to US mail for maybe the last month and a half of that, starting in late May). I did trim one notch off the Lily stem, only a few mm. Let me know!
Lilianenurselily on February 3rd, 2014 04:59 am (UTC)
Re: Lily
I currently own zero menstrual cups unfortunately. I guess it won't work :(
..::bella vita::..por_que_no on February 3rd, 2014 08:22 pm (UTC)
Re: Lily
Yeah, sorry! I would need a guaranteed backup because I can't use my Femmycycle on light days or for midcycle spotting, and when I'm on cruise ships I can't exactly have things shipped to me...we also have stewards who clean our rooms every night and they sometimes have a reputation for accidentally throwing away things they don't recognize (they're all Indonesian and cups aren't exactly big there, and besides, they're all male...)
Lilianenurselily on February 3rd, 2014 11:02 pm (UTC)
Well have fun on your cruise trip! :)I'm getting a si bell and natural mamma for now I will see how those fit to begin.
Kai: 2Cupskuradi8 on January 13th, 2014 05:57 pm (UTC)
Despite what the instructions say and illustrations show, ANY cup will eventually settle (O) around your cervix. The height of the base of the cup will be relative to the length of your vagina and the length of the body of the cup. So if you have a long vag and a short cup, yes, it will seem like it will have migrated way the heck up there. Similarly, don't believe the illustrations that show the cup sitting at the opening with a cup length or more between the rim and your cervix. For most of us, that is just plain WRONG! (Why oh why do they perpetuate that misinformation???)

You claim to have a long vag. And if you look at any of the size charts at the Community FAQ, the small Lady Cup happens to be a short cup. Just because that person panicked doesn't mean you have to too.

Using your favorite fold, insert your cup so the rim is just beyond your pubic bone. Allow it to open fully. Sometimes it helps to create an air channel with your finger on the soft back side of your vag for the cup to fill with air and open fully. Then give it a boost as you kegel it up and into place.

For removal, bear down, stay relaxed and try to get air into/above the cup so it doesn't create suction when you pull the stem and/or pinch the base to pull it out. If it's stubborn, a spoon is a good "emergency tool" to get it out -- but try to figure out how to do it without tools.

The Lady Cup also happens to be a fairly SLICK cup so dry fingers or a square of TP might help you get a grip.

There is a learning curve to these cups and removal is one of the things that can be tricky to figure out and master. There are a zillion ways to insert and remove. Figure out what works best for you.

As for suction: http://menstrual-cups.livejournal.com/2091967.html
elisamba on January 13th, 2014 08:01 pm (UTC)
If you are a first-time cup user, I would encourage you not to use the small Ladycup since you already know your cervix is high. It is well-known as a slippery, hard to grasp cup. I also have a high cervix and my worst experience was with a small cup, which felt like I was giving birth to it (squat, push, pull, twist, etc.). Took over an hour.

Since I got two longer cups (including one of the longest on the size charts), that has made all the difference, because pulling the stem is not what matters: pinching the base to release the suction is.

The cup drifting upwards is normal, and not suction. You will feel the suction when you are removing it. When in place properly, you won't feel anything because the muscles will hold it in place. While you get used to it, your muscles may feel tired after a couple days.

Also before using your cup, I would suggest reading all the successful stories on here you can, including a variety of removal tips, or otherwise the "horror story" may keep playing in your mind. :)