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11 January 2014 @ 11:52 am
Well, I’m a newbie. I just finished my first month with a Large Lunette. Some success, but I think I may have to find another cup. ; (

I’m 36. I’ve had 3 vag. Births and 1 c-section. I’ve got a tipped uterus and low cervix. After having kids I’ve had trouble with tampons . They tended to “migrate” and just weren’t comfortable anymore. I chose the Lunette because it was much shorter than the diva and had good capacity. However, I think I need something shorter still. Do I dare go with a size 1 of something?

I liked that the Lunette snapped open well. I could insert it and seem to have it all internal and the moment I stood up I discovered the entire stem would be poking out. I tried and tried different folds and different positions, but no luck getting it all to stay inside. It seemed to bother me more as the days went by to have the stem out. Finally I measured my cervix(throughout my cycle) and it always seemed about 52mm or 2 1/8” or roughly the length of the cup (aha!).

I eventually took to wearing it inside out (as I’d seen recommended for Divas). However, it wasn’t ideal. I had several times where it flipped around strange and an overnight where it had been in funny. Woke up with a backache and feeling like I had a bruised tailbone. Even upside down, it still was barely contained and irritated me on the last day.

I trimmed it down to the last ridge, but it still poked out and bothered me. (I didn’t want to trim it all the way off yet, just in case my cervix would be higher in another cycle and I didn’t start this one till day 2 – Does that happen?) I finished my period and felt for my cervix and still feel that low position.

So, I was able to get this to work. I needed the capacity on my heavy days, but not on the light. I had minimal leaking. However, I could always feel the cup (perhaps because of the stiffness of the Lunette?), but certainly because the length bothered me. I’d like to keep trying, but I don’t know that this size of Lunette is going to do it for me. I’m already thinking about buying another brand, but of course it’s a pretty expensive proposition, and I hope that I can nail it next time.

So, as I look at charts, I’m trying to find short ones, with good capacity, but with a wider rim to accommodate my looser walls, and probably softer than the Lunette. Some of the ones that interest me seem like they could be hard to get (L Lybera, M Meluna mini). Anyone have much experience with the Lybera or Meluna Mini (squishiness)? I can’t find much about the Lybera in particular..
The sckoon cup looks interesting too (I wish I had discovered it before). I’m wondering if their stretchy stem is less irritating then others…course it is only 2mm shorter than the large Lunette, so I don’t know if that is enough to make a difference. Or do I try a small size of something? Is it more likely to leak?
Which way do I go to find that “goldilocks” cup? Thanks!
Kai: 2Cupskuradi8 on January 11th, 2014 06:26 pm (UTC)
Check out the Large Sckoon. It's not much shorter but it has a rounded "blunt" base versus the Lunette's "pointy" one. Just changing the shape might do the trick for you.

Jumping to the Medium Mini Meluna will probably cost you a lot of capacity -- and that one is "pointy" as well.
Kai: 2Cupskuradi8 on January 11th, 2014 06:48 pm (UTC)

It's also possible that your PC (pelvic floor) muscles aren't as strong as they used to be.

When it comes to kegel exercises, there are many different kegel tools. Some are hands-on and require interaction -- such as wands or tethered "orgasm balls" or gizmos that look kinda like speculums. My favorite tool is just plain Ben Wa Balls. Start with ones that are about 1" and 3/4oz apiece and then graduate to those that are appx 3/4" and 1oz apiece. The idea is to insert them and keep them in while you walk around, do the dishes, etc. Start with 20 minutes a day and build from there. The longer you keep them in, they harder they'll be to keep them inside. That's what's working your PCs -- hands free, no interaction required. Do this at home. Be sure to remember to remove them (relax, cough and catch) before going out or using the toilet.

But it has recently come to light that kegel exercises are not enough. You will need to add squats (for the butt muscles) and lower abdominal crunches to your exercise routine. They all work together to tone vaginal muscles.
anjubea on January 12th, 2014 08:36 pm (UTC)
Hmmm...I'm sure my PC muscles could use some help. What does that do in relation to the cups? I've never heard of Ben Wa Balls. It sounds like that would really give them a workout...I'll have to look into it!
Kai: 2Cupskuradi8 on January 12th, 2014 09:21 pm (UTC)
Your pelvic floor is the "hammock" that holds your cup up and in. Next time after you go pee, insert your finger and give it a little squeeze. That's them. Keeping them toned makes making whoopee more fun for you and him -- and helps keep you from piddling your panties in your old age.
Kai: 2Cupskuradi8 on January 11th, 2014 08:09 pm (UTC)
Oops! I can't edit my first reply but what I MEANT TO SAY was:

If you think the pointy shape of the Lunette is what's making it uncomfortable, check out the large Fleurcup. It has the same dimensions but a different shape with a rounded blunt base, which also gives it a slightly higher capacity.

If you would like to go shorter than the 52mm Fleur and Lunette, then check out the large Sckoon. At 50mm, it's a little shorter than the other two but still has the rounded blunt base that might make a difference in how it feels.

As for capacity, the (all large) Sckoon and Lunette both claim to hold 30ml. The Fleurcup, 35ml.
m03m on January 12th, 2014 09:46 am (UTC)
Seconding the large Fleurcup... and this is one cup that does not lose its shape or capacity when worn inside out, so if you find that the grip rings irritate you (they're pretty fierce) you can flip it over and it'll probably work fine.

You can even file the grip rings way down. That's what I did.

Sckoon looks good too. It's expensive though.
Kai: 2Cupskuradi8 on January 12th, 2014 02:29 pm (UTC)
Considering that a cup can last you 10 years, its initial purchase price won't matter in a year because it will have paid for itself in savings over disposables by then.

Get the one that you think will fit/suit you best no matter what it costs because "it's not a bargain if it doesn't fit." Just think of all the clothes and shoes that you bought because they were "on sale" but never really bonded with.
anjubea on January 12th, 2014 08:46 pm (UTC)
Good thoughts ("it's not a bargain if it doesn't fit."). Not too hard to justify the cost of the first cup...but when you get to a 2nd and 3rd....that's when it's hard to swallow.

Now if I can just get it on the 2nd one and hold it to 2....
Kai: 2Cupskuradi8 on January 12th, 2014 09:13 pm (UTC)
Check out the mc_sales sister site. You can sell the cups you didn't like to recoup some of the costs -- or pick up second hand "gently used" cups that didn't work out for others.
anjubea on January 12th, 2014 08:41 pm (UTC)
The Fleurcup seems very similar to the Lunette. It looks like it is the same size or slightly smaller. Do you think the shape makes that much difference? In my case, I think the actual length is what is bothering me since it sits right at the opening of my vg. Does the slightly rounded shape of the Fleurcup feel different or help it not to poke down? Also does the Lunette tend to stretch out more worn inside-out? Capacity looks great though...
m03m on January 12th, 2014 09:30 pm (UTC)
Well, I don't know about you. I do know that the pointy shape of the large Ladycup (another short cup) makes it unusable to me. The pointy end, even when filed smooth, irritates the entrance of my vagina from the inside (yes, low cervix).
The blunt round shape of the Fleurcup does not irritate me at all and helps it not to poke out.
But of course, YVMV (Your Vagina May Vary).
anjubea on January 14th, 2014 08:33 pm (UTC)
Thanks for your feedback. At this point I'm thinking I will go with the Sckoon and hope that it works well being just slightly shorter, with a more flexible stem, blunter bottom and squishier. The only thing I'm not sure about is how well Sckoon would work inside out if it's still bothersome. Anyone had luck with that?

I will keep the Fleurcup in mind though as the capacity seems great, and we'll see how I like the more blunt shape of the Sckoon.

The Meluna Mini I will also keep in mind as a possible additional cup for light days if the Sckoon doesn't work for all the days...

We'll see...
pynki616pynki616 on January 22nd, 2014 01:20 pm (UTC)
i have a low cervix, too, and i use my ladycup inside out. still isn't the best, though. sits too low. if the lunette i'm waiting for doesn't work out, i'll have to keep a rounder one in mind for the next one...

also, i have a medium meluna mini. it, too, sits a bit low, although i don't fear it falling out like i do the ladycup. i think it's a soft, and that makes it a bit too squishy for being so low, though. i think it's getting squeezed by those pelvic muscles and because of that, leaks. that's my theory, anyway.

Edited at 2014-01-22 01:24 pm (UTC)