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Hey there,

I've been reading through this forum for awhile now, just trolling for advice & info. This is my second cycle using my diva cup. I'm 34 & have been sexually active since 19, but have not had children. I got the larger size (2 I think) because of age, flow, etc. thinking that would be the way to go, but I'm having serious issues getting the thing to pop open most of the time. I've tried turning it 360 degrees, but that's just flat out painful for me & I usually end up stabbing something with my nails (which are not long).
Long story short is sometimes it opens on it's own & it works so well & I'm a happy camper, but other times it doesn't & I fight with it to no avail & usually end up hurting myself. This isn't a horrible thing except on days 2 & 3 because I have extremely bad cramps anyway & trying to get it in just exacerbates the pain.
My question is this: if I switched to the smaller size would I have better luck? or perhaps a different brand (I chose Diva because I didn't have to order it online - it's the only one available in my area)?

Thanks everyone for having such a wonderful open community to help discover this wonderful invention (even if I haven't had total success yet).
 
m03m on November 7th, 2013 04:41 pm (UTC)
Let's not rush into getting a different cup... which folds have you tried? And have you tried using them in a different orientation (folded side up, down or sideways)?
log314 on November 7th, 2013 05:33 pm (UTC)
Pictures?
I think I'm using the C-fold where you mush down the center top so it looks like a C.

That's almost too big for me to get in. The other way I've seen is the way it looks like an oval with the center pushed in & I haven't tried that because I don't see how it'll possibly go up there.

Lastly I just found your post from 8.18.11 & I did sort of try that, & quite frankly I was not that coordinated. I will give a try again today.

I swear I read somewhere in here that there are more ways, but I just can't seem to find it with pretty pictures (I'm a very visual person).

As for orientation I have tried it all. No one way seems to work better that another... If I had to pick one maybe sideways.

Thanks for such a quick response! :)
elisamba on November 7th, 2013 06:42 pm (UTC)
Re: Pictures?
Mushing down the center top sounds like punchdown, which can be hard to open.

For the C fold you flatten the entire cup and fold it on itself lengthways. The rim seen from above looks like a C. You probably have to insert at least the tip of your fingers as well, then keeping one finger in and pulling away one vaginal wall for air to get in.

If you fold it diagonally, with one corner of the rim touching its opposite corner of the base, that is the triangle fold, which I haven't tried with a Diva but does leave you the option of edging the stubborn rim up after insertion.

Have you tried Youtube? There are lots of videos on different folds. Good luck!
log314 on November 7th, 2013 06:53 pm (UTC)
Re: Pictures?
I think I'm somewhere between punchdown & C fold based on what you're saying, and I have not tried youtube so I will do that tonight when I get home! In the mean time I've had to switch to my hybrid method because the last one lead to major leakage and pain.

Thank you for suggesting YouTube. I didn't think of it since this is such a "delicate" topic.

:)
log314 on November 7th, 2013 06:14 pm (UTC)
Tried again
Okay just re-did this using the method you posted in 2011. I managed to get the fold & get the cup inserted, but I can still feel it like I do when it doesn't seal. :(

TMI - when I stick my finger up along the sides there's always still an indent where I had it pressed in, and this is still the case.

IDK what to do. Even without a good seal I still don't have nearly as many "accidents" as I do with tampons. After having it seal properly a couple times now I do understand the difference in the way it feels and it's much more comfortable when done correctly...

I almost want to give up, but like I said tampons are worse for accidents.

P.S. sorry if I come off whiny, the being in pain thing makes me a whimp.

Edited at 2013-11-07 06:27 pm (UTC)
m03m on November 7th, 2013 08:42 pm (UTC)
Re: Tried again
Okay, you know what? You've almost got it. Really you do.
Don't worry too much, you're just having normal teething troubles!
Keep on keeping on, and try to be gentle with yourself. It's only your second cycle and you're smack dab in the middle of the learning curve. Things will look better pretty soon, I'm sure.

All of this is normal! You're just learning a new trick.
log314 on November 7th, 2013 10:22 pm (UTC)
Thank you
Thanks everyone... I'm going to keep going... Guess I just needed some moral support too. :)
m03m on November 7th, 2013 11:31 pm (UTC)
Re: Thank you
That's okay. You're doing great!
Kai: 2Cupskuradi8 on November 7th, 2013 08:40 pm (UTC)
I think you're rushing it. SLOW DOWN. Take your time.

Try opening it while it's down lower, then when it's open, give it a boost up to where it belongs. Create an air channel with your finger on the soft back side of your vag to get air into/above your cup to fill it.

If you still have trouble getting it to open, enlarge the tiny little anti-suction holes around the rim. A punch of some sort (piercing?) will probably leave a less-ragged hole than scissors or a drill bit. The holes on the cup with the largest holes are 2mm.
juliiie87juliiie87 on November 7th, 2013 10:22 pm (UTC)
pretty sure you're almost an expert by now, but just a few links I have handy :

http://menstrual-cups.livejournal.com/2618390.html

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nt6L-POE-b0

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ep5hh0W-nFw

Cold water, folded part facing down/back, half diamond, labia and origami work best for me. Try other positions as well : sitting on the toilet, sitting with one foot up, and especially lying on your back int eh provacy of your bedroom, whenever possible. You'll get this in not time! :)