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03 October 2013 @ 01:11 pm
Hello all! I'm new to this community as of (technically) last night, although I've been stalking it for awhile. I've been searching for the answers to a couple of questions and haven't found quite what I've been looking for, so I thought I'd post and see what y'all think.

My number one question is regarding bubbles. I've read some threads about bubbles, and those seemed to be specifically about leaking; none fit my current situation. I've read that bubbles appear to be a result of air displacement as one's cup is being filled, but for me? I'm currently in my pre-menstrual spotting phase (lasts several days of old blood, and apologies for the TMI!), and the cup as of yet does not runneth over. In fact, there's pretty much nothing (this is my first period cupping) at all aside from a tiny smear now and again. But I notice frequently that there's quite a lot of bubbling going on downstairs (namely, little bubbles running up the front of my vaginal wall and out, kind of the opposite of what I expected...). So for me, since my flow hasn't actually started...should I be concerned with all these bubbles that I will shortly have some major leakage issues?

Info on me: 32, one child, sexually active, very variable cervical position (it moves literally inches over the course of the day, up or down). Bought and am currently using Diva 2 with a trimmed and filed stem.

Question number two is regarding the diva itself. I've ready that one can turn the cup inside out if one has issues with a low cervix, but I was wondering...if my cervix is so variable over the course of a day, should I just suffer the discomfort, or will I risk the cup going out of reach if my cervix decides to move very high? I am always and seem to be most comfortable while sitting down, and I notice that sometimes my cup settles stem toward the right, so I assume that my cervix is also somewhat askew. Standing or changing positions seems to cause issues (with bubbles, with stem poking, or with the bottom of the cup being so low it's poking completely out of my labia-- not comfortable). As I work retail standing all day long, I don't want this to be a problem, especially with painful poking or, god forbid, an epic blowout at work!

Things that DO work well are: insertion (7 fold seems to be my holy grail), getting the cup sealed properly (I have no problem poking around my bits to ensure it's fully open), and removal. Suction does not seem to be a problem for me, and if on insertion the cup doesn't pop, I'll just pull it out, rinse, and go back at it until all is well. I am just extremely anxious about going to work for ten hours tomorrow and having some massive accident...

Thank you in advance for helping out this new user!
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Alwynsabishii_kirito on October 3rd, 2013 05:56 pm (UTC)
I get bubbles pretty often. Sometimes I think it's from blood displacing the air, others may have something to do with my cervix shifting and taking up more space in the cup or... Who knows what else? I don't really think there's much to worry about. I've been having it happen since I first started using cups five or six years ago, and everything still seems to be working fine.

As far as the cup size goes... Have you trimmed the stem at all, assuming you don't need it? I completely cut off the stem of my diva cup and smoothed down the choppy bits with an x-acto to prevent any discomfort with the base. Sometimes it sits a little low and peaks out, but it's much better than the edges of the stem. I have to keep part of the stem on my lady cup, and when it sits low, it's really irritating. If I didn't need the stem to pull it out on the days my cervix is high, I'd cut it off without hesitation.
cautiouskittycautiouskitty on October 3rd, 2013 06:18 pm (UTC)
Thanks for the commentary on bubbles. I hope it won't be an issue for me, either. I, to some degree, think it won't, because I always get a pretty decent amount of suction whenever I go for removal. Happily in that regard, I do not find it painful...although that may chance once my flow comes on full-force instead of just spotting like I'm doing now.

Yes, I have trimmed up the stem. I noticed quite a bit of discomfort and not a little pain from the stem even on my dry run, so I went ahead and took off one ring and figured thereafter I would be good to go.

However, I had to retrim some more on Tuesday at work (which is when my spotting started, eek!) because I was perfectly comfortable sitting on the toilet but kept getting jabbed in the right side of my labia whenever I had to walk around. The only relief before that was to pull a knee-height drawer out of the cabinet and rest my foot on it (Captain Morgan style, lol), leaning on the bartop while talking to customers. Fortunately it wasn't an eyebrow-raiser because I'm behind that huge bar-styled counter!

I am considering going ahead and trimming off the rest of the stem completely, because I don't use it at all, ever, for anything. I always pinch the base a tad and give a wiggle to break suction and get the cup out. I'm only worried that because my cervix goes from really low and dangly to so high I can't touch it sometimes within hours, that I may need that nubbin of stem, and I know that once the stem comes off, there's no fixing it back on.

Just buying another cup if I screw this one up is also NOT an option at this point. lol

I do NFP (natural family planning) and also cervix swipe to check for signs of ovulation, so messing with my bits is something I'm not at all squicky about. I just worry that I may lose the darn cup up there if my cervix decides to go high and have to go to extreme lengths to get it out.

Conversely, I worry about turning my diva inside out because I did keep that nubbin of a stem and I can't imagine the kind of pain that would ensue should my cervix decide to get all dangly again!

Decisions, decisions...
m03m on October 3rd, 2013 07:34 pm (UTC)
You can't lose the cup up there. There's nowhere it can go where you won't be able to get it out. You may need to squat and/or bear down, and reach up into your vagina, but out it will come. Don't worry about that!
cautiouskittycautiouskitty on October 3rd, 2013 09:41 pm (UTC)
Thank you. I'm aware. I just forgot that my tongue-in-cheek is a little hard to infer over the world wide web.

Worst case scenario, my hubby offered to help me fish it out. lol
m03m on October 4th, 2013 06:39 am (UTC)
Ah, okay, no worries. I have trouble detecting irony in foreign languages.

So... since you're not actually worried about the cup going up high, I suggest that you do trim the stem. Being stabbed in the labia is no fun! And then you'd be able to wear the cup inside out on low-cervix days.
cautiouskittycautiouskitty on October 4th, 2013 12:04 pm (UTC)
I made it overnight without trimming and the cup inside out, and this didn't seem to be a problem. I'm still considering trimming it off anyways, but I'm going to wait for now and see how the rest of this cycle goes.

My next test is to make it safely through work today (9 hour shift!) without incident!

Thank you! :)
Megan: EhhSqrlhdsqrl on October 3rd, 2013 06:31 pm (UTC)
Something to just tuck away to think on if/when finances permit: The large Fleurcup turned out to be a better choice for me, and this is following a year of dedicated, "it can't *possibly* get better than this" thinking as I used my Diva 2. I am 42, sexually active, 2 (now nearly grown) kids, also with a very variable cervical position.

I thought the Diva was perfect for me, but had a day last month in which things weren't going quite as well as usual one weekend (the stem and bottom of the cup kept wanting to migrate out to say hello), and that prompted me to consider another cup, just to see the difference. Turns out the large Fleurcup solved all of the minor annoyances I wasn't even giving voice to with the Diva. Now, I switch back and forth between them during a cycle, and find myself just a bit happier and feeling more secure when it's the Fleur's turn for collection.

I fully realize this doesn't address the concerns you posted about, but your post struck a familiar chord with me, so I wanted to at least drop this in as a side-note. :)

cautiouskittycautiouskitty on October 3rd, 2013 09:44 pm (UTC)
I'll keep that in mind, thank you.

I realize that I likely should have done a loooot more research on types and sizes, etc. before I went and just bought the diva. I'm almost completely satisfied with it at this point-- in fact, it's currently comfortably inside out-- but I could have found one better if I looked longer. I was just in a rush because AF was so close, and excited I'd found a store so close to home that carried it.

That's what I get for preferring instant gratification.
cautiouskittycautiouskitty on October 4th, 2013 12:13 pm (UTC)
Regarding Fleurcup...
...re-replying to you, hdsqrl.

I've looked up Fleur just for curiosity's sake, and I must ask: did you leave that very intimidating stem intact, or did you trim it up as well?
Megan: LOLcathdsqrl on October 4th, 2013 01:47 pm (UTC)
Re: Regarding Fleurcup...
Funny enough - the Fleur's stem is pretty soft. I agree that it looks intimidating, but you know how the Diva's tube-like stem is pretty stiff? The Fleur's stem is more like a solid...bar...I guess I'd call it, and it bends really easily. I haven't needed to trim it at all. Also, I think because the Fleur is a little wider through the body, it tends to stay put a lot better for me, and I've yet to feel it migrate downward like the Diva would do from time to time. The Fleur's stem seems to tuck itself away along one side of the inner walls and hasn't been a problem for me (yet.)

The Diva was my first purchase, too - and I hadn't done a ton of research beforehand, either. I think I (we!) got lucky that it worked so well...and I'd have been perfectly happy continuing with it if no other options were available. :)
nemesis27nemesis27 on October 4th, 2013 06:57 am (UTC)
I have the diva too, and the fleur, iris, meluna.., when I bought my first cup, I was wrong, the fleur in my case.., I think we need try more than one until find the perfect cup for us.

I get bubbles when my cup runneth over, always the first and the second day,not the rest of my period.
I didn´t trimmed up the stem, I don´t feel him and it rinse well..

in my opinion the diva is not one of the most large cups,on the contrary is small, is tight, (I don´t know if is the correct word, do you understand me?)so another cup will be similar or bigger..

try to use the diva two or three periods more to make a decision.


cautiouskittycautiouskitty on October 4th, 2013 12:09 pm (UTC)
Re: cups
I will consider getting another cup at a later date (horrah for backup); my goal for this cycle is to ensure that cups will work for me, period (oh, irony).

In the future, I will probably look for a cup that's a little bit wider at the rim than the diva, but not quite so long and pokey.

I've had plenty of bubbles so far, but now that I'm flowing full-force, it seems to be that displacement thing I've been reading about. No leaks whatsoever or other issues.

Thanks for the advice! :)
cautiouskittycautiouskitty on October 4th, 2013 12:02 pm (UTC)
As an update:
I went all night with my diva turned inside out on my first heavyish flow day. I didn't get any cervical poking, no leaks, no discomfort whatsoever. This morning I emptied it and it was a little less than half full.

Overall, I am satisfied. Just wishing the usual cramps would go away... lol

Thank you to all the folks that popped through this thread and gave me advice! It was extremely helpful! :)

...that deleted comment was me. I didn't notice I was replying on someone's thread. >.>