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01 October 2013 @ 09:12 pm
Hello Group,

So based on your advice I tried a xl meluna classic with ball stem since it is one of the higher capacity cups. I am having lots of trouble getting it to open. It is my second day on my period fourth day trying the cup. I have tried the usual folds labia diamond half diamond punchdown c fold and tried them different directions with and without cold water. It is very hard to get the cup to pop open I basically have to shove it open inside of me. When I am wearing it part of the grip rings stick out of me, it has had leaking (which I expect with a learning curve) but it feels like the cup is pushing my cervix upward and is quite painful. From what I can tell from the charts (it's hard for me to compare due to blindness) the flour cup (large) has the same dimensions and appears much softer. When I look at the pictures it looks like the fleur cup is more bell shaped than the meluna is this correct? Would more suction holes help or a firmer cup? Sorry for all the questions again. It also seems like when it leaks within an hour or two it is 1/4 full and a lot of the blood is forced out the rim like the cup is pushing too firmly... maybe. This is the hardest cup I have had popping open. I've had lunette, diva and femmycycle.

Thanks for your advice in advance.
 
Nanci Karvonen WillitsNanci Karvonen Willits on October 2nd, 2013 10:59 am (UTC)
Sorry I can't be any help except for to say I feel your pain! I can't get mine to open either, especially once I've been wearing it and it's all warmed up. The first insertion when I've been able to chill it down is a little better, but not always, and even the tricky folds aren't much help. I did take the advice of enlarging the holes and I'm waiting this months arrival to try that, but so far dry runs aren't totally successful. I used tiny embroidery scissors to make the change. I've been using a cup successfully for a year, so I'm past the learning curve, but apparently not with this one.
Serpent: neutralserpent_849 on October 2nd, 2013 12:11 pm (UTC)
seems like you've seen my post already :-) have you tried pushing away the back wall of your vag to let some air in? you need to wait 15-20 seconds when you do that.

also, is it inside you completely when you try to open it? it might make it more difficult to place the cup properly around your cervix. let it open low.

having to open your cup manually is normal. the "pop" doesn't always happen, especially with soft cups. the C-fold should be the easiest to open manually.
Serpent: neutralserpent_849 on October 2nd, 2013 12:16 pm (UTC)
oops, forgot that yours is classic. definitely sounds like your cervix is in the way.

the fleurcup is considered significantly shorter (just a few mm but they make a huge difference, and there are definitely people that can use the large fleurcup but not the xl meluna). also in general soft cups are harder to pop open than stiff ones. so give it more time first.
juliiie87juliiie87 on October 2nd, 2013 12:53 pm (UTC)
The XL Meluna is one of the longest at 47x56 mm long, while the Fleurcup is somewhat shorter at 52 mm and more bell-shaped, so yes, it is the usual recommendation for a low-ish cervix and a high capacity. In my experience with Melunas, the labia fold inserted with the fold facing back/down so that I can help poke it open on the way in with just one finger on the soft back side, using the cold water trick, is what has worked the best. Half diamond works similarly. What position are you using ? I find that sitting on the toilet, knees splayed or better yet lying down on my back (on a bed) help relax my pelvic floor so the cup has more room / air to expand. As for leakage, it's to be expected if a. The cup didn't open fully b. it's missing your cervix somehow c. there's some residual fluid from before insertion.
Kai: 2Cupskuradi8 on October 2nd, 2013 01:03 pm (UTC)
Your XL Meluna is 47x56. It is considered a long cup.
The large Fleur is 46x52. It is considered a medium length cup.

Because the grip rings stick out of you and it feels like it's pushing on your cervix, that could indicate that the XL Meluna is too long for you.

Enlarging the anti-suction holes around the rim might help with popping open. The idea is to get air into/above the cup.

Which Lunette do you have? If it is the large, that has the same dimensions as the large Fleur that you are asking about. How does that fit you? They have the same dimensions but they are shaped just a little differently. That's why the Fleur holds a little more. The Lunette's base is a little pointier, the Fleur's is blunter. And the Fleur has a slight flare to its rim. "Flower-like." Hence the name.
attemptmcuser3 on October 2nd, 2013 01:31 pm (UTC)
I had both. The large lunette fit well and didn't push me like the XL meluna does. I was thinking the fleur due to it's bell shape since it seems like my cervix takes up room in cups.
Kai: 2Cupskuradi8 on October 2nd, 2013 01:36 pm (UTC)
If you want a Fleur cup, according to http://menstrual-cups.livejournal.com/3170566.html today is the last day of their SALE. 5 Euros off.
attemptmcuser3 on October 2nd, 2013 01:41 pm (UTC)
yep just ordered one and the code worked.
Kai: 2Cupskuradi8 on October 2nd, 2013 01:49 pm (UTC)
I hope the Fleur works out for you. :o)
nemesis27nemesis27 on October 2nd, 2013 01:52 pm (UTC)
meluna xl
I have the meluna xl soft and the meluna l classic, fleur Large and Diva too.

well, in my case, the meluna doesn´t open completly, I think never.., but I haven´t leaks so I think the cup is ok. If you have leaks, you should check, with your fingers, that the top of the cup is deployed, althought the cup is crushed.

It´s the only cup, that I have, that doesn´t open completly, I have no idea why, but, for me it´s just so.

Now, I´m going to try the femmycycle, and I think this cup doesn´t open completly too.

I don´t like the fleur cup, it´s so hard, but yes, it´s more bell shaped than the meluna.



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Edited at 2013-10-02 01:53 pm (UTC)
juliiie87juliiie87 on October 3rd, 2013 10:03 am (UTC)
Just re-reading this : "blood forced out of the rim" & discomfort : sounds like the cup wasn't properly (o) around your cervix.
attemptmcuser3 on January 9th, 2014 06:04 pm (UTC)
Update: the fleur cup has worked the best so I will probably stick with it. Thanks for your help everyone.