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Leen Isabel
12 September 2013 @ 10:14 am

Hi everyone. Thank you for your help last month. Another month, another period and I have some new questions this time around.

BG info: 28, no children, 5'3" Last month, after my first run w/ the Divacup, I was alarmed by the amount of liquid I produced in one period and decided to see my doctor. Turns out I am both anemic and hypoglycemic. (The measurements on the cup were so helpful!) Currently adjusting diet & taking iron to remedy the problem.

After my quest for a larger capacity cup that was firmer for sport use, I settled on the Yuuki Firm. I bought both sizes intending to use the larger one on my heavier days. Yesterday, I wore the Yuuki Lrg all day and was fine albeit a little crampy. By evening, my flow became considerably heavier and between 6 p.m. and 12 p.m. I managed to fill the cup to overflowing 3 times.  My cramps developed and suddenly the cup became too uncomfortable to wear. I experienced soreness and pain throughout the night and had leaking twice. I decided to switch back to the small Yuuki and the cramps went away.

Now, with both Yuukis, I still experienced leaking and spotting even on previous lighter days. Do you think this is due to the small holes? I noticed that they are smaller than the DivaCup. They do seem clogged upon removal more often than the DivaCup. Will enlarging the holes help considerably w/ leaking or is it mainly for easier removal? (I noticed spotting even w/ the cup wasn't full.)

After my horrible night, I went back to wearing the Small Yuuki, had leakage and then switched back to the DivaCup this morning. The softer body is definitely more comfortable but now I think I'm leaking on the outside of the cup. (Which is something I didn't experience last month with it.) After so much leaking, will having residual liquid on your vaginal walls cause the cup to not have a proper seal? I don't recall hitting my cervix with the cup or it going past it. The only difference this month is that I did cut the stems off completely from all my cups as they were really uncomfortable.

So, considering my extremely heavy flow, I'm still on a quest for a larger capacity cup but the firm Yuuki is simply too much. I feel like it's just simply too large but the capacity was amazing. Any petite-bodied, heavy flow people have experience on this? I'm not sure if my leaking is due to cup size, firmness or the hole size. But I definitely need something large.

I would love to hear from anyone who has used the Large Cuplee, or Natural Mamma or Normal Yuuki (What's the number rating on stiffness of the Normal Yuuki?)

Kai: 2Cupskuradi8 on September 12th, 2013 05:28 pm (UTC)
Check out the various size and capacity charts at the Community FAQ. There are also links to squishy-ness ratings and to side-by-side comparison photos.

Off the top of my head, the large Yuuki, the XL MeLuna and the large Fleurcup are the most popular high-capacity cups.
Leen Isabelleenisabel on September 12th, 2013 05:37 pm (UTC)
Thank you. I have been reading that chart non-stop, but was also hoping to hear from users with experience. :)
I am pleased w/ the Large Yuuki's size, but the firmness was over the top.

I don't think the chart references the normal stiffness of the Yuuki... just the firm version.

Stiffness rating: http://menstrualcupinfo.wordpress.com/cup-stiffness-comparison-chart/
Leen Isabelleenisabel on September 12th, 2013 06:44 pm (UTC)
I did a little more digging and found this gem of a post comparing all the heavier capacity cups. Thank you again! If you do have other tips to share, I'd love to hear it.


I suppose I'll try the Large Fleurcup and see how that goes. :)
juliiie87juliiie87 on September 12th, 2013 07:33 pm (UTC)
There's most likely one or two large fleurcups up for sale on mc_sales. FYI the large Si-bell is basically a softer Fleurcup, otherwise mostly identical. I have a large Cuplee, I love it, it's veery squishy, veeeery comfortable, no issues really other than to treat it nicely because it seems mine has aged a bit prmaturely from the peroxide soaks and soap. I's say it's probably between a small and large Yuuki in size and capacity.

Regarding leakage: either it's because you overflowed and got residual flow all over your vaginal walls that made its way out, or the cup could be mostly full and overflow again whitout looking full when you take it out, because your cervix is stealing capacity inside. The large Fleurcup sounds like a good bet for that scenario due to its fuller shape. Also my guess is that your discomfort would be due to the stiffness rather than the size, or a combination of the 2, at least. If you go to Melissa's blog, where the stiffness chart is, you'll find a detailed review of the Yuuki cup following the tags on the right hand-side, and she does compare the original soft Yuuki to other cups such as the Ladycup, so from memory I think it should be a 2-3 tops.
Leen Isabelleenisabel on September 12th, 2013 07:38 pm (UTC)
Thank you so, so, so much! I snagged an available Lrg Fleurcup on mcsales so I've got my fingers crossed that this will be the one for me. :)

With the Fleurcup being softer than the Divacup, I am concerned when it comes to working out, but we'll see. Thanks again!
trejoytrejoy on September 13th, 2013 02:57 am (UTC)
When I used a large keeper (arguably the firmest cup out there) I had leakage any time my bladder or bowel was full. The cup would move out of sealed position and I came to the conclusion that I am internally quite wide and needed a larger softer cup (both proved true). Part of your leakage could be due to the stiffness of the cup not keeping a good seal..
Leen Isabel: Freedomleenisabel on September 18th, 2013 05:07 pm (UTC)
Thank you. After moving to the softer Diva, I was more comfortable. The Yuuki definitely pressed too hard on my bladder and bowels. I think a softer cup was definitely a good move.

Edited at 2013-09-18 05:09 pm (UTC)
alythea2000 on September 18th, 2013 12:53 pm (UTC)
How much did you flow in for the whole menses period?
Leen Isabel: Comfort Neededleenisabel on September 18th, 2013 05:08 pm (UTC)
Overall, my period can last 7-9 days. I have menorrhagia. On my heavy day alone, I can flow anywhere from 70-90 ml.

A larger cup capacity is definitely a necessity for me for most days.
alythea2000 on September 19th, 2013 02:26 am (UTC)
Has your Dr prescribed any meds?

I flowed about 120-150ml on my heaviest day and thankfully, my cycle is shorter at only 4 days. And with the new meds, I'm down to 70-90ml too on the heaviest day. I know, still a big amount but at least there's an improvement finally. The meds also helped with the intense pain. I seem fine even without iron supps etc. Maybe because I'm a carnivore :)

I use Femmycycle on my heavy days and instead of emptying my Mooncup every half hourly, I can now do it about 3 hourly! I also love it for nights as it doesn't have holes, that reduces the chance of leakage.

Being said, Femmycycle is also using softer and thinner silicone which explains why it has a shorter life-span. And to lengthen it's "life", I use it only on heavy moments. Otherwise, I stick to my MCUK.

Leen Isabelleenisabel on September 19th, 2013 02:55 am (UTC)
Oh thanks for the info! What medication were you prescribed? I was only advised to use an IUD and take Iron for anemia, but nothing further than that. I'm not interested in taking birth control, so I'm working on my diet for the moment.

Wow, your heavy day was intense! I'm pretty sure I flowed more than 70-90 ml to be honest. I was only counting during the day... not night too! I was also passing rather large blood clots which caused me to empty out my cup often.

I am interested in the Femmycycle, too! May I ask how you're shaped internally? I wasn't sure if the FC is right for me and I'm not ready to purchase a new cup after having gone through 4 already. Though, the design and capacity looks great. I'm going to see how the Large Fleurcup holds up on my heavy day first.
alythea2000 on September 25th, 2013 02:13 am (UTC)
Ytd was CD1 and between 1pm-11pm, I flowed 110ml, 24Hr count could be around 180ml :P I'm trying not to take any meds this cycle as it's my first after I weaned my LO. Pain and more pain, feeling really silly from trying to be a hero.

Dr prescribed Tranexamic Acid 500mg, 2 tabs, 3x a day. It didn't work for me plus it's quite ex$ at almost a dollar per tab.

Then he prescribed Mefenamic Acid 250mg, 2 tabs, 3x a day. It helped a little plus it alleviated quite a bit of my pain (I've got adenomyosis).

I re-measured the capacity of the Femmycycle using a small measuring cup. And to my surprise, measuring up to the level of the fluid when I remove it, it's almost 45ml! Ok, I removed it only when it started leaking that's why it's so filled to the rim as I'm simply too lazy to empty the cup more often then that. But what surprised me is that it can really store a lot of fluid! Even at 35ml and lying down, it doesn't leak!

I'm not sure how I'm shaped inside, only know that my uterus is tilted on some cycles. A scan this cycle and next can show very different shapes. I can feel my cervix about 2.5-3" high. This is only my 4th cycle using the Femmycycle and I learnt that I've to use a finger to go in and ensure that the cervix can't be touch and covered by the cup, otherwise it's sure to leak! It doesn't pop open like the other cups so it's a little trick I use to make sure it's fitted right. No regrets with the cup! Love it's huge capacity and comfort. No suction pain when removing.