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06 September 2013 @ 03:46 pm
Okay, so I compared the Diva Wash and the Lunette wash with Dr. Bronners Baby mild Castile Soap actually Dr Bronners has 3 or 4 ingrediants thats found in one of the washes so yeah, basically they try to make more profit.

Here's the Dr. Bronners:
Water, Organic Coconut Oil*, Potassium Hydroxide**, Organic Olive Oil*, Organic Hemp Oil, Organic Jojoba Oil, Citric Acid, Tocopherol

The Diva Wash: Has the same ingredients which would be:
Water, Tocopherol Acetate (Vitamin E), and Citric Acid (-Ph Balancer), and Cocamidopropyl Betain which is coconut oil basically.

The Lunette Wash has the same ingredients which would be: Water, And citric acid

I would say Dr.Bronners is more naturally oil based then anything but to me it's basically the same thing, what do you guys think.
junexmommyjunexmommy on September 6th, 2013 07:47 pm (UTC)
Note There are more ingrediants too both the diva wash and Lunette but i only posted the ones that were common too dr bronners.
Kai: 2Cupskuradi8 on September 6th, 2013 08:11 pm (UTC)
Well, consider your goal in washing your cup. What do you want the ingredients in your soap to do? Also consider that you will most likely want to rinse away any residue so wouldn't you want to pick one that leaves the least behind?
junexmommyjunexmommy on September 6th, 2013 08:40 pm (UTC)
Jennifer Monoteasy2begreen on September 6th, 2013 08:17 pm (UTC)
Ingredients are listed by descending quantity, so it's not surprising that all three list water first! If you look at the next ingredient or two, that will tell you a lot more about the formula of each. Dr. Bronner's is a true soap made from saponified fat (coconut oil + potassium hydroxide -- basically lye). Soaps work by allowing water and oil to mix and therefore wash off. Diva Wash has a medium strength surfactant (cocamidopropyl betaine, which is derived from coconuts but undergoes a fair amount of chemical processing and is considered synthetic) that is also found in some shampoos and body washes, including baby shampoos. Surfactants lower the surface tension of water so that it is more available to interact with the things you want to wash away. (Surfactants are sometimes also called detergents.) The Lunette wash's ingredients are unhelpfully vague ('vegetable oil based cleansing agent'), so it could be either a soap or a detergent. I'm guessing it's a surfactant like Diva Wash because of the wording (if it had involved coconut oil and sodium/potassium hydroxide like Bronner's, I bet they would have included that on the label).

Neither is bad (not to get on the soap box too much, but natural is not necessarily safer than synthetic), and it's hard to quantify strength without knowing how much each soap/surfactant was diluted with water. I wouldn't pay that much for Diva or Lunette wash, though. I give my cup a quick rinse with unscented liquid soap and call it good, and I've never had any problems.

Hope this helps!

junexmommyjunexmommy on September 6th, 2013 08:42 pm (UTC)
Wow yeah it does thank you
Sarcasticia Nitpickersontisiphone on September 6th, 2013 09:50 pm (UTC)
I'm glad I scrolled down a bit because you covered everything I was going to say :) Just, don't use the peppermint Dr. Bronners.
junexmommyjunexmommy on September 6th, 2013 10:03 pm (UTC)
nah i have the baby mild unscented, imagine a tingly vag lol
Emily: Velvet Rabbitlittlravn on September 8th, 2013 04:58 pm (UTC)
the peppermint is fine as long as you rinse it really, really well. I prefer the baby mild but the peppermint works in a pinch.
junexmommyjunexmommy on September 6th, 2013 10:03 pm (UTC)
thats exactly what I do too, with washing it!!
elisamba on September 7th, 2013 07:55 am (UTC)
My guess would be that the "vegetable-based cleansing agent" is a nod to those people who figure that "if I can pronounce it, it's natural-hunky-dory" (one of my pet peeves for over-simplification instead of critical thinking skills). I bet it is a synthetic surfactant.

I think the more an article "lathers", the more likely it is a surfactant (?) Or is that over-simplified, too?
Jennifer Monoteasy2begreen on September 7th, 2013 02:24 pm (UTC)
I am so with you about the labeling issue! I don't necessarily mind a synthetic surfactant, but I'd rather be told what it is rather than given the run around.

I think you're right, overall, about the lather -- cocamidopropyl betaine is a foam booster, as are a number of other surfactants (sodium lauryl / laureth sulfate). I don't know enough about surfactants to speak for the entire category, though. I do find that true liquid soaps don't lather much at all.
anjeaanjea on September 6th, 2013 08:33 pm (UTC)
I soak mine in a 50-50 solution of water and hydrogen peroxide. Cleans, sanitizes, and nothing icky! It keeps it stain-free and doesn't cause any irritation.
Saygasayga on September 6th, 2013 09:39 pm (UTC)
At the risk of sounding disgusting and/or getting flooded with negative comments, I'm going to ask if most people use a special soap to wash their cups or not, because I don't. I rinse my cup between insertions whenever possible, and when I'm done with my cup for the cycle, I wash it with my regular bar soap (I get a package of 3 for a dollar at the Dollar Store; no fragrances or anything just basic soap) and that's it. I don't boil it (unless I drop it in the toilet...I've boiled my 6 year old Diva cup once, and never boiled any of my other cups) or wash it with any special soaps or rinses. Is this normal?
lupus unaiamjustme on September 6th, 2013 09:57 pm (UTC)
That sounds like exactly what I do. If I feel my Diva is getting scummy, I'll wipe it down with rubbing alcohol too. Super easy.
junexmommyjunexmommy on September 6th, 2013 10:05 pm (UTC)
I sometimes do this also.
junexmommyjunexmommy on September 6th, 2013 10:05 pm (UTC)
Yeah it is you can do anything you like too really, its just preference of the user really. :)
serenebean: writingserenebean on September 6th, 2013 11:30 pm (UTC)
This is exactly my routine...I try to rinse between insertions, use lavender Dr. Bronner's when I'm done for the month, and boil it if I drop it in the toilet (managed to do this twice, bleh!). No issues at all. My body doesn't really care what I do, though...it seems like people with sensitive pH levels or other issues are generally pickier about their cleaning. :)
Jennifer Monoteasy2begreen on September 7th, 2013 12:12 am (UTC)
I'm not too fussy about my cups. Whatever in the soap pump is what I use (usually something mild and unscented because I don't like strong synthetic fragrances), and since I have a few different cups that I rotate between, whichever one I just finished using goes in a hydrogen peroxide bath until I'm ready to use it again. I boil all of my cups maybe twice a year.
Serpent: neutralserpent_849 on September 7th, 2013 09:36 pm (UTC)
there have been quite many posts about "how do you clean your cup?" and there seems to be a pretty even divide between hardcore cleaning (especially those with allergies etc), medium and care-free. i'm in the medium category, i kinda think no soap is better than an aggressive soap. if i use anything but water, i use baby shampoo.
juliiie87juliiie87 on September 6th, 2013 10:22 pm (UTC)
I'd be more concerned about the other stuff, preservatives, fragrances and such, and not so impress aboutt the variety of natural oils : who needs their cup to be moisturized ?