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04 September 2013 @ 10:06 pm
So far I'm seriously happy with my Diva Cup. No leaks, it's super comfortable... and for the first time in my life I actually forgot it was only day 2 and not day 5 LOL. However, my main issue atm is the pain I'm getting when I take it out and reinsert.

It's been a few days since I got my period and started using it, and removal's been okay, but I still have issues getting my fingers in there to grab the thing. For some reason my perianal region seems to be super sensitive, so while sticking my thumb down the front wall of the vag is perfectly okay for me (ie how I've been breaking the suction... instead of my index finger I'm using my thumb), I can't grasp the other side so easily to get a grip on the base. I'd try it from either side instead of the back and front, but that kinda hurts too... I feel like I'm more able to stretch front to back than side to side.

As a result, removal's been a bit of a pain and my perianal region is super irritated... on insertion, I feel a slight pain around the opening (nothing too serious though) and a little pain on the inside (probably from the suction and trying to push the thing as far down as possible to grab it without irritating the back wall of my vag.

Is there anything I can do to ease this process and prevent the pain and irritation?

Also I have a slight fear of damaging something should I accidentally knock the cup against my cervix or pull too hard when the suction isn't broken... Can any of that actually happen, or do you know?

PS. As a side note, is it normal for it to change the pressure level when you pee, so instead of a strong stream it's a little weaker? I've noticed this happening from time to time when I use the cup.
 
Tess: Me as of January 2012gryphonwing on September 5th, 2013 06:33 am (UTC)
I'm not always super comfortable putting two fingers in there to get the cup. For me, if I use one finger to break the seal and then just bear down, my muscles do most of the work on their own. The cup comes down low enough that I don't have to reach inside to pinch the bottom. The Diva is long, which helps - it wasn't as easy to do with my Meluna, back when I had that one.

I've never hurt myself even if I pull it out with suction - I'm not saying it's impossible, but it hasn't been my experience. And some people's cervices are pretty touchy, but normally bumping into it a bit won't hurt anything. Otherwise penetrative sex would be out for a lot of us.

You can always try lube in case part of the irritation is from friction rather than just stretching - and of course breathing slowly and consciously relaxing during insertion and removal will only help.

And yes, changes in how you pee are totally normal. The cup presses against the urethra from inside. Some people can't pee easily with their cup in. For me, it's just a slight change in the flow, no big deal.
junexmommyjunexmommy on September 5th, 2013 09:12 am (UTC)
What I do is squeeze the base of the cup in and wiggle it side to side while gently pulling it out. It should work.
Kai: 2Cupskuradi8 on September 5th, 2013 12:24 pm (UTC)
A post about suction: http://menstrual-cups.livejournal.com/2091967.html

The idea is to get air into/above the cup during insertion and removal. The anti-suction holes around the rim of the Diva are tiny. Enlarging them with a piercing/dermal punch leaves a less jagged hole than with scissors or a drill bit. The holes on the cup with the biggest holes are 2mm.

Read the posts and replies at the removal tags and combine the advice to come up with a method that works best for you.

It's not unusual for a cup to impede a urine stream. I pee first, remove the cup to dump it and then finish peeing.
..::bella vita::..por_que_no on September 5th, 2013 12:36 pm (UTC)
For the first several runs you might actually take some local anesthetic gel (Orajel or the like) and rub it around the "hotspot" area a few minutes before you attempt removal. Without this I would not have been able to manage removal the first several times, particularly with my old Melunas or anything with an actual rim. (The cups I currently use don't have outer rims, which fixed this problem.) I wouldn't necessarily recommend this for insertion though...you do need to feel something in order to make sure you're aiming the cup in the right direction!
juliiie87juliiie87 on September 5th, 2013 03:02 pm (UTC)
I would try using a water based lube and apply it to the area before removal, or even better, coconut oil (water based lubes are often filled with nasty preservatives like propylene glycol and my vag doesn't like that). As for removal you could try the "hot-dog in a bun" method, where one of your finger rides up next to the cup on whichever side you're comfortable and presses against the body of the cup do introduce air between the cup and your wall, therefore releasing the seal, and then you can bear down and try to drag it lower this way, until you can conveniently get a hold of the base and fully take it out.
divagirl98 on September 6th, 2013 05:52 pm (UTC)
Ok Thanks for the suggestions... it seems bearing down more is helping... I'm not getting as sore on removal, but I seem to have encountered another problem, I'm getting really sore inside. I already do use water based lube, so I'm not sure that'll help.

I had an interesting problem this morning where I tried to put the cup back in and it wouldn't pop open right. I haven't had any issues since getting it in last month and a in the last few days until now. It just feels really sore inside, like my cervix is scratched or something... I tried to get it in but it hurt too bad and wouldn't pop open, so I'm wearing a pad for now. Should I just give myself a break maybe from it? Idk... I only have like 1 day left of my period. Should be practically gone by tomorrow or Sunday.
juliiie87juliiie87 on September 7th, 2013 09:49 am (UTC)
Don't feel bad if you need a break. I usually find that alst few days of my period to not be "worth it" and use cloth liners instead. And with the cup, it'll only get easier with practice. One thing to look for would be your cervix. Make sure you let the cup unfold below it and that it settles just under or (o) around it and not squished to one side of it, that would be painful (and useless).