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Leen Isabel
14 August 2013 @ 10:15 am
I'm having issues w/ my cup at night. (Diva Cup Model 1. Late 20s. No children. Very heavy flow.)

The night the heavy part of my period started, my cup filled and leaked pretty badly by morning. I wore a pad, dealt with the problem and shrugged it off. (6 hours of sleep.)

The next night, my flow was lighter and by morning, I had leaked again. This time, the cup was only 1/3rd full, was in for 6 hours and I had emptied it completely before bed.

Any theories as to why this is happening? I make sure the cup is low to not go past my cervix and that the suction is secure before going to bed. However, I feel that the Diva might be too soft and long for me. Is it possible that the cup can "move" into a more comfortable position? When it's time for me to empty out, the cup moves inwards a little bit and the stem moves off and angles to the left. It's never perfectly centered.

My possible solution: Comparing my experience with the DivaCup 1 so far, I'm opting to try the Fleurcup L or MeLuna L. Both of which are shorter in length, are stiffer and have higher capacity than the DivaCup. I feel that the DivaCup might be shifting too close to my cervix or maybe some liquid is squeezing past the rim.

Notes: I exercised last night. Inverts, squats, abs -- the whole deal and had 0 leaking. When I go to empty the cup, I DO notice that it is a pretty flat oval shape. My muscles just squeeze it that way. I read that I should consider a firmer cup.

How does the firmness compare between a MeLuna Sport L & a Fleur Cup L? I'm on the fence between those two.
juliiie87juliiie87 on August 14th, 2013 05:56 pm (UTC)
Firstly, if it's somewhat full and starts to leak, then consider it full. Secondly, cups will move up to sit (o) around your cervix, especially at night, there's nothing you can do about it. And thridly, if it sits at an angle or off-center, DON'T try to correct it, because it's just trying to fit around your cervix, so your anatomy must be that way, and it's fine. But the Diva being a very V-shaped cup, your cervix sitting inside the cup means it's reducing its capacity rather significantly, so yes, I think if you want to try and maybe sleep through the night (keep in mind many heavy flowers need back-up at night though... cloth pads are a good solution for that), you'll need a higher capacity bell-shaped cup such as a large Fleurcup or Femmycycle (which are shorter, but not stiffer btw). Why do you think you need a shorter or firmer cup ? Shorter cups will likely ride even higher, but at least those have more capacity near the bottom, where you cervix isn't. If you go with Meluna, consider an XL too, it's similar in length to a Diva and holds even more.
Leen Isabelleenisabel on August 14th, 2013 06:01 pm (UTC)
Thank you.

Are there any reviews on the MeLuna Sport yet? I was curious about the firmness of that vs. the Fleurcup L.

pineapplewhippineapplewhip on December 22nd, 2013 06:48 am (UTC)
MeLuna sport
I have really strong muscles too. I love the MeLuna sport. Ok, it's only in one color, but it's pretty, and what's important is it works. All cups like to move up in me except MeLuna. Odd, that's true for the Classic and Sport, I can't get soft opened. It's made of the same thing as a baby soother aka pacifier, the German female health care I hear is very good. I think their site has many nice and necessary items as well.
My go to cup on heavy days is the large Lunette, and for me it's because in general Lunette small and large wont leak for my body. So no pad even in sleep, and I have very heavy periods.
I might say that I like MeLuna's large best, but only have smalls, so those are my light day cups. Sports are great for me, and I should get a large one.
So as for the sport Meluna question, I would order that kind next order again. I don't feel any of the cups once in place, that maybe should be said. :) Bridge

Edited at 2013-12-22 06:54 am (UTC)
Leen Isabelleenisabel on August 14th, 2013 06:06 pm (UTC)
During my period my cervix drops and I think I could benefit from a slightly shorter cup. I theorized that maybe the long DivaCup moved to a position that doesn't work with the length of my canal.

Also firmer because I exercise and noticed the the cup is consistently a flat oval shape. Maybe a firmer cup would have a tighter, solid suction??
juliiie87juliiie87 on August 14th, 2013 06:12 pm (UTC)
Internal shape and how cups sit is very individual so I can't really say, but your reasoning about stiffness makes a lot of sense. So large Yuuki in firm or XL Meluna in classic or sport sound like good options, minus the Meluna being TPE and taking the body shape more, but that also makes them more comfortable so it's up to your gut feeling, and the Meluna is more rounded so overall... Keep an eye on mc-sales for one, Meluna is a favorite there. Suction is a bit overrated though http://menstrual-cups.livejournal.com/2091967.html but I know what you mean.

Try Melissa's sidebar for reviews : http://menstrualcupinfo.wordpress.com/cup-stiffness-comparison-chart/
Leen Isabelleenisabel on August 14th, 2013 08:20 pm (UTC)
Thank you so much. Looking into the Yuuki's size and capacity, I think this might work best for me out of all the options so far.

I am concerned about the TPE material of the MeLuna and didn't know that it takes your shape. But I think the two Yuuki sizes are best for me during the different flow stages of my period. Thanks!!!

I am a little concerned about cramping with a wider rim, but I'd rather have that than leaking at night. Do you suppose it's something one gets used to over time?

My flow is so heavy, I've filled Diva cup 3 times on my heavy day. And my periods can usually last 5-6 days. I may need to talk to my gyno about this. :( The cup has been so helpful in helping me see this.
Kai: 2Cupskuradi8 on August 14th, 2013 07:55 pm (UTC)
Since you're considering the large Fleurcup and the large MeLuna, also consider the large Lunette.

It has the same dimensions (but slightly different shape) than the Fleurcup and the same capacity as the large MeLuna. The large Fleur has a reputation as a squishy cup. The large Lunette is rather stiff-bodied.

There are pros and cons to stiffness. I think the large Lunette pops easily and seals securely but sometimes its stiffness makes it feel like I've got a bowling ball up there on my sensitive BLECH days. I often wonder if a large Fleur wouldn't be more comfortable.

In the mean time, don't forget the trick about flipping your Diva inside out if you think it's too long for you on any particular day. It won't help with your capacity issues but it might help with other leakage.

And as for suction... http://menstrual-cups.livejournal.com/2091967.html
perigrineperigrine on August 15th, 2013 08:31 am (UTC)
FWIW, I always leak when I've been laying down. So I just don't use a cup at night, the mess just isn't worth it. I'm a tummy sleeper, so maybe that is a factor, but even a nap on my side causes leaks. I'm still saving money by using the cup during the day, so I don't sweat it.
teacupcake89 on August 15th, 2013 11:21 am (UTC)
Despite being called 'large' the Meluna large holds about the same as your 'small' Diva, the Diva being long and wide compared to most other brand's smalls, but low in capacity because of the shape and low airholes, and because Melunas come up small in comparison to other brands (so the large is more of a 'medium', you should be looking at an XL if you want more capacity, you could always get a classic stiffness at that's pretty stiff already)

the reason why your cup is never perfectly centred when you go to remove it is because your cervix is to one side not slap bang in the centre of your vagina, and the cup rim slants towards it. Try aiming the cup in this direction when you insert it.

It sounds more like a capacity issue than a stiffness issue, as it would be more prone to leaking when exercising if that was the case. I love the capacity of my large Fleurcup, but a classic xl meluna or a yukki (soft or classic) could be options if you want something firmer, although not so much if you're prone to cramps/utis.