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08 August 2013 @ 04:41 pm
Ok, so if you've read my previous post, I mentioned in the comments that I managed to get my divacup in and had an entire night with no leaks. However, I had some stem difficulty after putting it in and it took the entire night for that to disappear. Well I'm happy to say that I wore the cup another night with no leaks, and after having the same issue with the stem but realizing I could trim it and still be able to remove the cup, I took it out this morning, trimmed a little bit off the stem, and put it back in.

This morning was my first change and the stem is now trimmed up to just below the last rib on the stem. I'd trimmed it before but not much as I was scared I'd need it since I hadn't been able to get it in fully before. Now I can't even feel it... and if I do it's only a slight tickle of the stem within the first few minutes after insertion.

Removal's still a pain... I feel like there's barely enough room to get in there... and I have to refold the cup during removal to get it to the entrance and have it expand to catch what I'm squeezing out of it by doing that. Is this supposed to happen? I find I'm not as sore as my first shot at "giving birth to the cup", but still.

Overall, I'm very happy with this thing... still pairing it with pads for testing purposes, but seeing as I still haven't had a leak thus far, I'm gonna step down to a panty liner for tonight since these pads are making me sweat like crazy (which is confusing to me as I feel moisture and think I've leaked until I check and there's nothing there XPPP).

Despite my success, my mom doesn't seem to like me using this. She's aware of me using it, and she knows it hasn't leaked, but she seems to think I'll get an infection and that I'm stupid for using it. If she hadn't hid menopause, she says she wouldn't dare stick one in for her period. I'm not expecting to convert her or anything since she doesn't have a period anymore (it'd be kinda pointless at this point), but it pains me to have my mom think I'm stupid or unsanitary for using my cup. Any tips?
Aut viam inveniam aut faciam.infragilis on August 9th, 2013 12:15 am (UTC)
I think a lot of people have this initial, "Ick!" reaction when they find out about cups. The only thing you can do is present facts.

The ones I usually break out are:

-There aren't even any recorded cases of TSS related to cup use; there are warnings on tampon boxes about TSS because it is common enough with tampon use to warrant it...and yet the disposable tampon is considered more hygienic because "you throw it away."

-Most menstrual cups are made from medical grade silicone, which is highly sanitary, hypoallergenic, and easy to clean.

-Tampons absorb all the fluid in the vagina, good or bad, which is just not healthy for the vagina.

Most of the time when I tell people that my cup is as clean as my dishes, they change their minds. Some switch, some don't, but they're always less grossed out. You could always show her the FAQ section on the DivaCup website too. Good luck!
divagirl98 on August 9th, 2013 08:00 am (UTC)
Thanks, I took a moment to dig out the box and showed it to her. She simply took a look at it (being a mom concerned for my safety and all) and paused for a moment then said "they didn't have these when I was your age" XPPPP (which is true... the divacup specifically wasn't made until 2003).

Anyway, mom troubles are sorted out. Now I just gotta figure out my hit and miss removal system. Apparently sometimes it'll come out okay... and others it sticks and hurts like the cup is a 2 year old and my cervix is its mother o.0 (PLEASE LET GO FOR THE LOVE OF....).
juliiie87juliiie87 on August 9th, 2013 09:42 am (UTC)
I don't have a Diva cup but what I do to break the suction is insert just one finger next to the cup, as high as I can, while bearing down to help it get lower and help my vag relax, and then press against the body of the cup to unhook it from my flesh and sort of start bringing it lower that way, using my finger nail as an anchor into the cup. Then nce it's within reach and unsealed I add in the tip of my thumb to grap the base and out it comes ! We call it the hot-dog in a bun, your finger does the sausage to the cup.
Kai: 2Cupskuradi8 on August 9th, 2013 02:32 pm (UTC)
Actually, yes, they were around. http://mum.org/MenCups.htm 1930s. Then a resurgence in the 1970s.

Have you enlarged the anti-suction holes yet?
divagirl98 on August 9th, 2013 06:45 pm (UTC)
Haven't enlarged the suction holes yet.... not sure to go about that. I mean, people tell me scissors will leave the holes too jagged, and the only hole punch I have is the one that makes those HUGE holes for binders in paper. Any recommendations there? I'm not sure I want GIANT holes in my cup lol... altho a little larger wouldn't hurt.

And YES I knew about them being around in the 30s and 70s... I forgot the details tho so I haven't mentioned they were around in the 1930s... I just mentioned that back then they died off a little because there would have been mostly latex models (not too great for allergies in most) and disposable products had an appeal back then.
Kai: 2Cupskuradi8 on August 9th, 2013 06:51 pm (UTC)
Google dermal punches. 1.5 to 2mm. A 12g piercing tool is about the right size too.

Edited to add: But adjusting your removal technique until you figure out a way that works best for YOU will probably get you farther than modifying your cup.

Edited at 2013-08-09 06:53 pm (UTC)
Marie Intarnetteladylynx on August 12th, 2013 04:38 am (UTC)
Or they stop coming over for dinner. :P
divagirl98 on August 17th, 2013 09:53 am (UTC)
HAHA! I'm pretty sure that'd be the case when company starts thinking "How many more 'cups' has she stuck up there? o.0"

Then they just look at the Wine glasses with a terrified look on their faces xPPPPP
Carriecarrieb on August 9th, 2013 01:34 pm (UTC)
Biggest tip: Don't talk to your mom about it. She doesn't need to know (unless you are a minor and you really do have an infection and need medical care).

Just because she thinks it is stupid, does not mean it is stupid. She is entitled to her opinion, but she is not an authority on this topic so there is no need to even bring it up with her. Avoid the topic.
divagirl98 on August 9th, 2013 06:42 pm (UTC)
Well I've tried just being like "it's my body it's none of your business," but she likes to open up my drawers and stuff and MAKE my business her business. She's seen the cup in my drawer several times and every single time she's just like... "And that thing... you shouldn't have bought it... it's stupid, it probably won't even work, and you could get an infection... I wouldn't use it."

So I mean it's hard to avoid when you KNOW she's gonna make it her business to know my business... even if that's not right at the moment.
Carriecarrieb on August 9th, 2013 07:17 pm (UTC)
Oh man. I am so sorry to hear she treats you like that. I assume you are a minor, so don't have a lot of choice in the matter. Can you keep it in a ziplock baggie in your purse? Does she look in your purse.

You can ask her: Mom, why are you so interested in my vagina?

That may or may not shock her into silence.
divagirl98 on August 17th, 2013 09:52 am (UTC)
Well, I'm not a minor (I'm 20), but I'd like to stay on my mom's good side, so I don't end up like those people who leave home and never see their family again after a fight. Also I'm going to school and living at home right now, which is a lot better for me financially, so it's more a matter of having limited choices considering that than not having a choice in the matter.

But yeah, showing her the box it came in (yeah I'm a pack rat... I keep everything lol) seemed to help. All's cool with her now! I could be just imagining things... but I think this actually brought her a little closer to me since she hasn't been very talkative with me since grandma passed away o.0

If I'm not imagining things... WOW... this cup has started fixing my family issues lol
Jennifer Monoteasy2begreen on August 9th, 2013 04:05 pm (UTC)
I think your mom is probably reacting defensively to something new, and expressing her concern for your safety in ways that I don't blame you for finding annoying. I wouldn't bring it up unless she does. Maybe in a few months she'll be more open to it as she realizes how much money in monthly products it saves and how much happier you are. Also, maybe if she sees you taking good care of it (boiling / sterilizing it at the end of every cycle), it will send a positive message across. Positive conditioning -- still more effective than butting heads over something! :-)
Marie Intarnetteladylynx on August 12th, 2013 04:36 am (UTC)
Moms can be...dare I say it...stupid. Fathers too. I still remember when I was maybe 15 and my parents barged into my room to lecture me on how o.b. tampons would make me lose my virginity and how no guy would want me. :P

As for infections and sanitary, just show her the articles on how much chemicals there are in pads, and how pads and tampons can have funguses in them. That your chances of TSS are much lower with the cup.
pineapplewhippineapplewhip on December 18th, 2013 04:25 pm (UTC)
families are tricky.
I think you should be proud of your find, and I am sorry that would be hard, trying to please everyone. Bottomline, you can't. Sometimes I am a believer in listening in advise (often) but cups are great. She is scared of something she doesn't know about. My mom thinks it's cool and wishes she had known about them. My sister isn't anti-cup but I got her one and she won't go anywhere near. Can't please everyone!Good luck.

Edited at 2013-12-18 04:27 pm (UTC)