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07 August 2013 @ 03:32 am
Hi! This is a very, VERY long post, sorry. I hope the "read more" spoiler works.
I have been with this community for about over a year and a half now, but just recently came back. I hope that I can find helpful advice like before.

I have seen the size chart for cups and many comparison pages, but it is difficult to determine charts and I usually like opinions from users because someone may know what I'm looking for (or if they're looking for the same thing).

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I have a small DivaCup, and without going into too much detail, it was a disaster for me -- I couldn't get it in (when I did, I was met with such ridiculous pain that I got scared off from cups for many months), it was too stiff and very difficult to hold in all folds without hand pain, it popped very suddenly and violently, suction felt extreme, and it was too big (personally).
Then I tried the small Lunette Selene, and while it is a lot easier to hold folds, I still have problems with insertion -- with size but also the violent popping open as well... But still, size is constantly an issue -- sometimes even tampons feel rather big, but I really, really want to like menstrual cups (I am 16, a virgin, my cervix is usually very high as I can't recall reaching it, and my fingers are quite long, so it must be high) I don't know why, but I have not had any luck so far with my cups. I really wish to try another.

I do have a rather heavy flow as well, so I do not think my "ideal" cup exists -- that is, thin/small but not short, and easy to hold all the way through insertion without sudden opening/slippery or violent popping (that happened with my Diva and my Lunette still intimidates me when I accidentally let go and it opens so suddenly, it's sort of scary thinking of it doing that inside of you). Mostly, I want a very small cup, but that might put my moderately heavy flow AND high cervix in jeopardy. It is difficult to choose.

I am a bit interested in the small soft Meluna, but I hear mixed reviews of it (and also I'm afraid it's too short) I've also heard about the LadyCup being small, which I'm looking for, but I also hear that it's similar in size to the small Lunette (which I don't want). Are there any opinions on these, or any others?

I feel like I may be setting up very restrictive standards, but if anyone knows of a cup that may match my description (or knows what I'm trying to look for and can tell me their opinion on it) I would appreciate it very much. I hope there is someone who had searched for the same as me and might be able to share. Thank you.

Thanks a lot!!
Oliviaonlywords on August 7th, 2013 08:30 am (UTC)
I posted in here yesterday seeking advice and I'm hardly an expert on these things but, for what it's worth, I can't reach my cervix either but I haven't had any problems getting my small soft Meluna out. The ball has been easy to hold and it pulls straight out. The ring end might work for you as well. That said, I don't have a very heavy flow but I haven't found the small soft Meluna to be a good option on my heavier days because it doesn't seem to seal very well for me but I am twice your age so you might have more luck with it. The medium isn't that much bigger so you might want to consider it as a compromise between size and capacity.

Good luck!
axfox on August 7th, 2013 02:34 pm (UTC)
Thank you very much ! I'll look more into the size differences and such, then. Thanks for the information regarding the cervix/capacity topics as well. I'll look more into this one!
m03m on August 7th, 2013 11:03 am (UTC)
my Lunette still intimidates me when I accidentally let go and it opens so suddenly, it's sort of scary thinking of it doing that inside of you

Then it may help to realise that the inside of the vagina is very flexible, and not at all rich in nerve endings. In other words, if the cup opens suddenly when it's well inside your vagina (not halfway in the opening) you may not feel it at all. Unless it hits your cervix, but as you said, that's way high up, in your case.

Melunas are made of a different material than silicone, and as a result they are not as 'snappy'. Maybe that's where your answer lies.
juliiie87juliiie87 on August 7th, 2013 01:33 pm (UTC)
I second m03m's remark, vaginas and cups get along beautifully because past the tiny entrance, there is a lot more flexible, expandable, smooth and mostly pain free room than you'd ever imagine looking at it from the outside. And that doesn't change much whether you're a virgin or not, only the very entrance can be an issue.

In terms of cup recommendations... it is generally believed on this community board that vaginas aren't a given width, like I said above. However, softness of a cup may very well make it more comfortable for you if you are sensitive to springiness or pressure of a medium stiffness cup (such as both of yours). So I would look into Meluna soft, but I wouldn't go under a medium, and would rather advise a large. For two very good reasons : once you'll be over your fear of size (springiness won't be an issue with a Meluna soft, it's like the least springy cup ever), you'll still need the capacity, and you'll still need to be able to reach it for removal so you'll be glad for the length. You could possibly consider getting a ring stem and tying a string to the ring. Another cup I can personnally recommend is the Cuplee : medium width, medium to long length, and soooo very soft ! I love it. Also very easy to partially refold for a smooth removal. Another option that seems perfect for you : the Lilycup. It's not the highest capacity by far, but it's supposed to be very soft, and it's the longest cup : http://www.intimina.com/en/lily_cup_pd.php#lc_benefits
axfox on August 7th, 2013 02:31 pm (UTC)
Thank you very much to everyone who replied! I really appreciate it!

Thank you, juliiie87. Your reply was very helpful for me! I have looked more into the Lilycup when you suggested it and I am really liking the sound of it so far... I don't recall knowing about this one until now, so it is interesting to me.
Good information on the soft Meluna as well -- I'm still pretty interested in that one too. I suppose I'll look for more comparisons and such between them and choose which seems more suitable for myself. Once again, I really appreciate the recommendations, thank you!
..::bella vita::..por_que_no on August 9th, 2013 12:54 pm (UTC)
If you decide to look for a softer cup, I agree with the Lily suggestion! If your cervix is totally unreachable during your period it will be perfect...turns out mine actually does dip down a little bit but it was still manageable. Even the Meluna Medium Classic was way too stiff for me--couldn't really use the bathroom at all while wearing it--and it was way too short/difficult to remove because I can't fit a thumb and forefinger in there.
Kai: 2Cupskuradi8 on August 7th, 2013 01:53 pm (UTC)
Do not buy another cup yet. A different cup will NOT be any easier than then ones that you have. The problem is not the cups, it's that you have not figured out how to work the ones that you have and that you are afraid of them.

Become more familiar with your body. Learn to relax your pelvic floor muscles (aka PC.) Get more comfortable with inserting things.

If your hymen isn't in the way, you're probably clenching your PC muscles. To isolate them, next time you go pee, start and stop your stream a few times. Then insert your finger and give it a little squeeze. Now that you know how to contract them on command, practice RELAXING them on command. You'll need to do that for insertion and especially removal. Open your mouth a little and keep your jaw slack -- and don't forget to breathe! :o)

Also, if you don't already, drop your panties to your ankles so you can splay your knees comfortably. It's easier to insert/remove than if your knees are bound together.
Serpent: neutralserpent_849 on August 7th, 2013 05:56 pm (UTC)
the small ladycup is even smaller than the lunette and has very little capacity.
I agree about something soft for the comfort but fairly wide for the capacity (and the ease of removal! it's harder to grab a tiny pointy cup).
but i also agree with kuradi. your lunette will probably be fine if you stick with it. try a different fold (labia is good!), find the right way to hold your cup without getting cramps in your hands/wrists, run the cup under hot water to make it softer. also the violent popping open happens when the rim isn't fully inside yet.

basically, do the opposite of what i recommend here, heh http://menstrual-cups.livejournal.com/2618390.html but the advice about experimenting still stands.

i was 20 and a virgin when i got my small lunette. a bit older than you, yeah. if i may ask, are you comfortable with your body? are you able to insert 2-3 fingers? also, do you know that you should aim towards your tailbone or butthole rather than up?

how new is your lunette cup btw? if you've only tried it a couple of times, play with it in your hands! unfold and refold it, squeeze your hand into a loose fist and "insert" the cup and so on. get used to it without hurting your vagina.

you also don't mention ever putting your hands or the cup into your vagina while on your period. have you? or were these dry runs/did you only check your cervix off your period? if so, definitely try these on your period, and definitely don't buy a new cup before you've looked for your cervix on your period. tbh i suspect that you might have missed it. if you don't find this too squicky, look at the photos at http://www.beautifulcervix.com/ to understand a bit better what you are looking for.
sckooncupsckooncup on November 9th, 2013 02:13 am (UTC)
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You may want to consider SckoonCup size 1. I don't want to advertise here but can't help mentioning it, as many users reviewed SckoonCup as one of the easiest-to-use menstrual cups and recommend for menstrual cup beginners.
Kai: 2Cupskuradi8 on January 9th, 2014 03:07 pm (UTC)
If the Mods haven't asked you to do so already, please "edit tags" and remove FAQ from the list. That makes this post show up at the Community FAQ, which should be for general information for everyone, not your personal experiences or questions. THANKS! :o)