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So I'm 20 years old (not a virgin). I've been to this community before and posted but I completely forgot my login info including the email I used so I started a new account.

Anyway, it's been a few years since I tried inserting my diva cup, and after much failure my last time, I finally decided to go back to it. Tonight I attempted to insert it, but I found it hurt and was very uncomfortable put it in. I feel like I'm going backwards cause I've had it in before, although without the correct seal, which made it uncomfortable to wear. Now I can barely stick it in without feeling pain or discomfort.

I think I'm probably afraid of it popping open too soon. I'm currently using the punch down fold and I can't seem to hold it in place whilst trying to shove it up far enough where the sun don't shine. the entire bottom of the cup is still outside my body when this happens.... I've had it pop itself open and slide out in the process. I'm not sure what fold to use really, since the other folds seem complicated to do or I have issues holding the cup in the folded position. Ideally I need something slim at the tip (since I'm having pain issues) that holds together when you hold it from the base.

Anything I can try to make this easier? I figured I'd start now since I'm on my period and it's my last month of vacation before school starts that I can mess with this thing while on my period and not have to go out of my house during this first part of the learning curve when it's most apt to leak due to me getting the seal wrong.

Also, as I'd rather not mess with this too much due to possible leaks while I'm learning when I have to be out of the house for classes and stuff, is there any way anyone would recommend to practice with this thing?
divagirl98 on August 7th, 2013 08:48 am (UTC)
I managed to get it in after my shower, but it feels a little weird. At first it felt like I had to pee, And the cup was kind of squished but sealed from what I could tell. I can feel the stem and that bothers me, but I kinda feel the rest of it a little too.... I feel like it should be higher up, but idk.

I'm gonna try it for the night if I can bear keeping it in and see if it leaks.
m03m on August 7th, 2013 11:12 am (UTC)
It might well be too long for you. The Divacup is too long for many of us. It can't be higher up if there is nowhere for it to go.

Once you're more familiair with it, you could try flipping it inside out to shorten it and see if it fits you better that way. If it does, it may be time for a shorter cup.
juliiie87juliiie87 on August 7th, 2013 01:04 pm (UTC)
As long as the whole rim is inside, it's om if part of it sticks out when it opens. Better it pops open then than not at all ! Then you can kegel or gently nudge it in place. It may be too long for you, that depends on how high/low or how far from the entrance your cervix is (which you can check for yourself with a finger). The cup should be fully unfolded, it can be oval though, and (o) aorund the tip of your cervix, contrary to what the instructions say. Most of us don't have several cup lengths between the entrance and our cervix, and even if we did, the cup would end up sitting as far as it can.
What you can try : water based lube or coconut oil to make it slide in easier, different positions (lying on your back on your bed, sitting on the toilet, on the edge of the tub, etc.) and different folds : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nt6L-POE-b0 Good luck ! :)
Kai: 2Cupskuradi8 on August 7th, 2013 02:21 pm (UTC)
As the others have said, it sounds like the Diva is too long for you. Compare it to other brands at http://sizecharts.livejournal.com/ or at any of the size charts at the Community FAQ if you think you'd like to try a different brand.

As for popping open too soon, "don't do that." ;oP

Insert the cup so the rim is beyond your pubic bone, then let go. If you don't already, drop your panties to you ankles so that you can splay your knees comfortably. Also try turning the cup so the folded part faces the other way (left instead of right, up instead of down, etc.) Sometimes that makes all the difference in the world.
divagirl98 on August 7th, 2013 03:38 pm (UTC)
Ok so morning came and its been like almost 7 hours. I can feel/even find the thing. No leaks. Wow... this ia gonna be fun later.

I'm leaving it for now, but any tips for getting it out when you're aroused and cant find the stem? I think it rubbed up against some things in my sleep enlarging my tissues lol. Now its worked its way up.

Also now I need to figure out how to get it in so it feels like this to begin with.

Edit: found the stem. But its too tight to get my fingers in there. Experiencing some light leakage, but that could just be blood from before I inserted the cup that didn't leak out since I was lying down all night. Looks like the cup is about a half a cm to a cm higher than I put it in. I guess there's my "little bit higher" lol

Edited at 2013-08-07 04:27 pm (UTC)
teacupcake89 on August 7th, 2013 04:45 pm (UTC)
it's actually pretty normal for a cup to be higher up after several hours of wear or overnight because cups will ride up to sit underneath your cervix if they can, it just means your cervix is higher than you perhaps thought at first.

not all cups users can reach the stem right away, nor do you need to be able to do so. Use your muscles to bear down like when doing a bowel movement/pretend you are giving birth to the cup by pushing in several separate pushes and try to reach further inside with a finger to drag it down or press one side inwards as you push.

giving yourself time to have breakfast/walk around etc may help it move down a little bit, try to relax and go and do something relaxing if it doesn't come out right away. Bear in mind that almost everyone has a moment (or moments) in the beginning when it's really difficult to get out and think they might need to go to A&E... fear not you just need to relax, you'll get loads better/quicker at insertion and removal with practice.

the light leakage is probably slobber like you said or just because you've had it in for 7 hours and it's full!

did you manage to get it out?
divagirl98 on August 7th, 2013 05:37 pm (UTC)
Not yet! Its still paired with a pad and I got 2 more hours until the 12 hours is up so I'm not too worried. Just got home from running an errand, so ima try again in a moment. I think I might cut my nails shorter first tho... avoid unnessesary pinching should my vaginally be like "no.... Mine" xP
Kai: 2Cupskuradi8 on August 7th, 2013 06:30 pm (UTC)
OK, maybe it's not too long for you after all. ;o)

Bear down and relax. Squatting (in the tub/shower so you don't have to worry about making a mess) is a good way to bring it down if you can't do so on the toilet. And if all else fails, a spoon is a good tool to help break the seal.

Once it's out, it might help to enlarge the anti-suction holes around the rim. They help with popping open and with breaking the seal. Something like a (piercing) punch might leave a less ragged cut than scissors or a drill bit. The holes on the cup with the largest holes are 2mm.
divagirl98 on August 7th, 2013 06:46 pm (UTC)
Got it out! Pretty much had to shit the thing out my vag... I did it in the tub just in case... but thankfully there was no spillage.

Was about half full... no leaks (assuming I would know by blood on the outside of the cup). I hope I can get that seal again xP. Any tips for getting it higher up when u feel like it cant go much farther yet it will anyway? Even with tampons i've noticed a break/bump where my vaginally seemingly changes levels/directions if u know what I mean (like theres A bump there where it gets stuck.)