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22 July 2013 @ 02:50 pm
Hi everyone,
I have searched long and hard on this forum to try to find the answer to my problems but nothing seems to quite fit.
I got my first cup, a Divacup size A. I am 30, never had children, and haven't been sexually active for years (I don't know if that matters).
It took a while but after reading this forum I finally got the Diva in and it seemed fine. It rode up a bit but other than that the placement was fine, except for the fact that it pressed so hard on my bladder that it was excruciating!
So I thought that maybe I need something that is softer. So, I again checked the chart and decided on the SiBelle, size small. I got it and have just tried it out during my period. After inserting the Diva about a hundred times I think I have insertion down pat. The SiBelle goes in fine (I insert sitting on the toilet pushing it straight in, not up), it opens up right away and has suction. The problem I'm having is that at first I can get in in the perfect position but then I walk around a bit and it rides up, up, up and hurts horribly! I felt that it was probably pressing on my cervix it had gone so high and maybe there was suction too, I don't know. After I took it out I hurt very badly, five hours later I'm still hurting but getting back to normal. My cervix is not low and is in the "normal" position. When I am on my period I can just barely feel it with my index finger if I push it all the way in, so I would say it's probably about 3-3.5 inches from the opening. I don't know if the Diva would cause this pain too because I couldn't bare to keep it in that long to find out.
If I try a cup that is wider will it not ride up so much?
I'm afraid of trying the SiBelle again because the pain was so bad and lasted so long afterwards.
I appreciate any advice you can give me!
Kai: 2Cupskuradi8 on July 22nd, 2013 09:21 pm (UTC)
Width has little to do with it riding up.

IGNORE THE ILLUSTRATIONS and the directions for the cups to "sit low." The illustrations that show the cup way down by the entrance of the vagina with a cup-length or more between the rim and the cervix is JUST PLAIN WRONG! Why-oh-why do all of cup manufacturers perpetuate that image?

ANY cup should eventually settle (O) around the cervix and the base of that cup is relative to the length of the cup and of your vagina. So if your Diva creeps up, of course your significantly shorter SiBell will go even higher.

The idea is to get air into/above your cup so that it does not create suction on its way out. Use your finger to create an air channel on the soft back side of your vag. Take your time, go slowly. If you feel pain from suction, get more air into/above the cup.
e_poxy on July 23rd, 2013 02:14 pm (UTC)
Thanks for your post kuradi.

The whole riding up issue and where should the cup be located was the first thing that drew me to find this website and I soon learned from SO many posts that those instructions are just wrong.

I will try to use the SiBell again. I had tried to get air in. I found it easiest to put my thumb all the way in toward the front of the vaginal wall. This is also how I break the suction to remove it also. But maybe I wasn't getting enough air in before the SiBell created a seal?

I just still don't understand why the SiBell started out fine and comfortable and ended up giving me so much pain as it went higher. Does the cup create more suction as it rides up? I have read on here that some women make the air holes larger, is this something to consider doing?
e_poxy on July 23rd, 2013 02:30 pm (UTC)
I just found this link on suction:

Very helpful. I'll continue practicing, but I just wish I understood where the pain was coming from.

Edited at 2013-07-23 02:30 pm (UTC)
e_poxy on July 23rd, 2013 06:07 pm (UTC)
After some more practice I think I found that the punch down method puts the thing in a better position, but the suction with the SiBell really frightens me because my canal is deepish and the thing goes up high. I have learned to bear down to get it to come down, great, that's progress. But it takes a while to release the suction by holding the thing down with one hand while putting a finger up the side of the cup, to the rim and pushing it down.

So, I am again trying the Diva Small. The suction is easy to release with it at least and it doesn't scare me...as much. I do feel some pressure but I guess I managed to get it into a better position because its not hurting my bladder. I wish someone would make a cup where the rim and base where a bit stiffer and the rest soft. Also, if they made it with four sections along the body that ran from the base to rim that was a bit stiffer it might help with releasing the suction.