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11 July 2013 @ 04:40 pm
Hi everyone,
I've been a bit of a lerker for a few years now, just checking in when I have an issue and also when I bought my first cup.

I have a small Mooncup that I've been using for maybe 3 years or so? I always put up with the issues I had with it till now thinking that's just the way it is but I want a new cup now.

The problems I've had with Mooncup is on the first couple days of my period my cervix drops and the stem nub on the cup sits just inside the entrance and it's annoying. Also I have Multiple Sclerosis (neurological disease) and it affects my bladder, I get urgency so I can't hold on for very long and I also go reasonably frequently. The Mooncup rim is large and stiff so it puts pressure on the urethra which is irritating and also restricts the urine flow which I really don't need.

I suspect the cup rim pressure thing could be because I have a small vagina and need a smaller and possibly softer cup. So I've just ordered a MeLuna Small Mini in Soft, the MeLuna Small seemed to look a bit long for when my cervix drops. I was going to get the Mini Classic but I read in a post that the Mini Soft rim is stiffer then the Small Soft rim so might still pop open easily enough and be soft enough not to irritate the urethra. Anyone able to confirm that for me? or is it super soft and difficult to pop open or get leakage?

Who has tried both or compared them by hand? I still have time to change my order to the Classic if I need to and there aren't many of video's or pictures comparing these two specific cups.

Thanks for any help :)

BTW I'm 28, 5'3, petite size and not a virgin.

UPDATE: I'd just like to say a HUGE thank you to everyone who has helped me with this, I really appreciate it! Everyone in this community is so supportive and it's so nice to feel safe to speak freely about all this stuff :-)
 
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courtney_vixen on July 11th, 2013 07:32 am (UTC)
Thank you, that's very helpful, if the mini classic is quite firm and from what I've read the rim on the Mini soft is firmer then the Small soft it will hopefully be ideal. Thank you :)
femininewearfemininewear on July 11th, 2013 06:06 am (UTC)
I have a video showing the mini size http://youtu.be/q3z67rarhY8 and I will film one today comparing the stiffness of the mini soft and small soft. I will also take some photos.
I have to wait for my MeLuna order to arrive and it is due today.
courtney_vixen on July 11th, 2013 07:39 am (UTC)
That would be great and I'm sure would help lots of women when choosing.
I did find that video when searching in UT, it was very helpful, thank you!
May I suggest with the video you're going to make to include the mini classic and perhaps show how well they pop out from a punch fold or similar, I think that would show the rim stiffness/softness really well :)
femininewearfemininewear on July 12th, 2013 08:32 am (UTC)
I have filmed a video for you, I hope it helps http://youtu.be/jCeUrlvn16c
courtney_vixen on July 12th, 2013 08:41 am (UTC)
That is SO awesome, thank you so much!! That is a super helpful video and I really appreciate your help :)
femininewearfemininewear on July 12th, 2013 12:21 pm (UTC)
Aw, you are SO welcome :-) I have taken some photos but haven't had a chance to upload them to the website yet, I'll do it over the weekend x
femininewearfemininewear on July 19th, 2013 04:12 am (UTC)
I have also put some photos up on my website, if that helps
Yamxyamx on July 11th, 2013 06:32 am (UTC)
I have both a mini small soft and classic. I originally ordered the classic, and got the soft as a sample. I loved it so much more that when I decided I'd ordered the wrong stem, I went ahead and ordered a mini small soft with the stem I wanted.

I've never had trouble to get it to pop open. Honestly, never. I also have a mini M, and that sometimes takes two tries, but the mini S has popped open for me every time without issue.
courtney_vixen on July 11th, 2013 07:34 am (UTC)
Awesome!! That's super helpful, sounds like I ordered the right one then, hopefully it works just as well for me too :D
Serpent: neutralserpent_849 on July 11th, 2013 12:49 pm (UTC)
see this if you have problems popping open:) http://menstrual-cups.livejournal.com/2618390.html
the stiffness indeed matters a lot. classic is almost as stiff as your mooncup so i don't think it's a good idea.
Jennifer Monoteasy2begreen on July 11th, 2013 01:27 pm (UTC)
I don't have a small mini classic, but I do have a small mini soft. I had a heck of a time getting the volume optimized small soft Meluna to open, but find opening the small mini soft to be quite easy. I use this cup when I'm anticipating my period or to catch discharge, and it is so comfortable I can never feel it. The only down side is that it may be a little too soft for my pelvic floor muscles, as it tends to leak if I am running or dancing.
elle2013elle2013 on July 11th, 2013 05:39 pm (UTC)
I completely agree. I have a small soft MINI and I've never once had trouble getting it to pop open. On the other hand, my volume optimized medium soft Meluna is by far the most difficult cup I've ever tried to use. I think the MINI's rim makes all the difference in getting it to open.
courtney_vixen on July 11th, 2013 09:19 pm (UTC)
Awesome, thanks :)
courtney_vixen on July 11th, 2013 09:20 pm (UTC)
Thank you, that's very helpful. I'll have to remember to wear a cloth pad when I go to tap dancing then, don't want any embarasing accidents! lol
Kai: 2Cupskuradi8 on July 11th, 2013 01:53 pm (UTC)
Whether soft or classic, the small Mini is TINY. It has a low capacity and if your cervix dangles into it, it will hold even less. Compare its dimensions and capacity to others at http://sizecharts.livejournal.com/

Your Mooncup has a fairly narrow body and a thick flared rim. Its rim is kinda stiff but its body is not. Most other cups don't flare. Compare side by side photos to compare its shape to other similarly-sized cups. For example, the small Lunette and the small Fleurcup are popular favorites. The Lunette's base is a little pointy (like your Mooncup's) while the Fleur's is blunt and rounded. Perhaps you would benefit from a change in SHAPE rather than a change in size?
courtney_vixen on July 11th, 2013 09:39 pm (UTC)
Thanks, I'll have a look to compare. One of the reasons I want a new cup though is because the mooncup is too long on the first days of my period. I looked at some youtube videos comparing the small Meluna to the Mooncup but it was barely shorter and everything else looks the same or bigger. Also the rim is a big problem, does the small Lunette and Feurcup have smaller or softer rims? I think if it is just as wide but a different shape it might still put pressure on the urethra which is my problem but I don't know, I've only used the one mooncup, does a tiny 0.5cm difference in size make a big difference when it's inside?

I understand that the mini is tiny but on my heavy days I change twice and the absolute most I've ever had in there is about 14ml, usually it's 10-12ml so I know I will have to empty the Meluna more often but if it's more comfortable I think it's worth it.
Luceafaraluceafara on July 12th, 2013 07:10 am (UTC)
The Fleurcup rim is way more pronounced and harder than the rim on the Meluna soft. That's the S Fleucup compared to the S Meluna soft, BTW.

Edited at 2013-07-12 07:10 am (UTC)
courtney_vixen on July 13th, 2013 01:40 am (UTC)
Thank you :)
courtney_vixen on July 11th, 2013 10:08 pm (UTC)
Uh oh
Damn, I'm all confused now :(
I've always known that my cervix drops a lot for the first half of my period because the mooncup hits it easily etc, but I've never felt around for it. So I checked and yep I can reach it easily, at least that what I think it was, the phrase "dangly cervix" sounded pretty accurate, it was like I could run the tip of my finger around it.
So if that is my cervix will the Mini still work for me? or do they slide up and the cervix sits in it? anyone have experience with this?
The Meluna small is about the same size as the mooncup minus the rim so I'm wondering if I should get that one instead of the mini? I just thought it would still be too long :/
Luceafaraluceafara on July 12th, 2013 07:08 am (UTC)
Re: Uh oh
Meluna makes the minis particularly for women with a low cervix. I have a super low cervix myself and could fit the S Meluna soft, so you may not "need" to go mini. I think they all slide up - or rather, are supposed to be inserted high up - and the cervix ends up taking up a bit of space in it.
courtney_vixen on July 12th, 2013 08:45 am (UTC)
Re: Uh oh
Thank you, it's good to know that's what it is designed for. I think I'll try the soft mini and see how it goes then if I need a larger cup for the end of my period when the cervix gets a bit higher I'll look at getting a Small. But I can't wait to retire the mooncup! lol
Luceafaraluceafara on July 12th, 2013 01:05 pm (UTC)
Re: Uh oh
True, you can even use the mini in-between periods if it ends up too small.
courtney_vixen on September 10th, 2013 02:33 am (UTC)
Just thought I'd leave a little update in case anyone else ever reads this with the same questions.

I ended up getting the soft small mini and it's great, it is so much more comfortable then the mooncup by far! I only received it at the end of my last period when my cervix is higher but I didn't have any problems with it riding up too high or struggling to remove it. Once it didn't pop open fully but I could feel with my finger that it hadn't so just reinserted, every other time it was fine, no issues.
I'm going to order a classic small now too for very heavy days and at night so there is no worries of leakage.
I understand these cups are often too small for women but I'm a petite girl with a low cervix so these suit me perfect :-)