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Lilah
07 July 2013 @ 12:12 pm
I use a Ladycup, and for the most part I love it. But I have a fairly high cervix, and even though the Ladycup is easier to insert and more comfortable than my old Diva, it's sometimes harder to take out.

I can't reach two fingers all the way up to wear it sits. Bearing down only takes it so far, and most of the time I end up having to pull on the stem to get it to a point where I can pinch the base (working as intended?). The problem with this is that it's almost impossible for me to break the seal before the damn thing is practically sitting at the entrance, and it feels like it's tugging on me when I pull on the stem. I pull pretty gently, but the feeling is quite uncomfortable, even bordering on mildly painful, and I worry that I may be causing some damage. It sits fairly high, I want to say it sits around my cervix? But I'm not totally sure. That's certainly how it feels when I pull on that stem lol.

Is it possible to damage myself in this way? I know that a cup sitting high is usually not indicative of a weakening of pelvic floor muscles, but over time could I damage myself and cause them to weaken by improperly using a cup? Should I just try harder to break the seal when it's further in? Maybe these are stupid questions, but I've been feeling pretty anxious about this lately. TIA!
 
trejoytrejoy on July 8th, 2013 01:30 am (UTC)
I'm not in the fields of science or medicine, but I don't think you will damage yourself by the strong suction. Do you let air into the cup as it opens? I too have a Ladycup and when I haven't let air in, the suction can get mighty strong. If you can, try letting some air in by placing a finger alongside the cup and pushing away the vaginal wall during/after insertion while it is nearer the entrance before moving higher up. You will probably feel a small rush of air as the cup unfolds or pops open. For me this lessens the strength of the suction considerably.
juliiie87juliiie87 on July 8th, 2013 09:12 am (UTC)
Some people find that they can break the seal using just one figner slid up next to the cup and pressing against its body so it unhooks from your walls. Others find they need to use two hands once it gets within reach. I don't think you are damagind yourself but if it's uncomfortable you might enjoy a longer cup / with a longer stem, such as Cuplee, Miacup, natural mamma or a Si-bell as I heard those don't cause much suction when you pull on the stem.
kiba_koumorikiba_koumori on July 17th, 2013 07:22 am (UTC)
I second this. It is exactly what I do to get it out. In addition, I use my finger to "hook" the rim and push it down to the punch down fold and take it out that way. Blood will get on your hand though. But it's the only way it will come out for me.

Edited at 2013-07-17 07:24 am (UTC)
Kai: 2Cupskuradi8 on July 8th, 2013 12:30 pm (UTC)
Next time after you go pee, insert a finger and give it a little squeeze. Those are your pelvic floor muscles and as the name implies, they are at the FLOOR of your vagina. So no, what you describe has nothing to do with their strength. As for creating suction on removal, not breaking the seal can be painful but no, it won't damage anything.

Yes, ANY cup will usually settle (O) around a cervix. The height of the base of that cup would be relative to the height of your cervix, the length of your vagina and the length of your cup. Since the small Ladycup is one of the shorter models then yes, it could seem "way up there." Since the body length of your Diva is considerably longer (it's one of the longest brands) then yes, its base would be easier to reach.

Since you are having trouble breaking the seal, read the replies at posts with REMOVAL tags. To break the seal and not create suction, you need to get air into/above the cup. There are many ways to do that. Basically SLOW DOWN the process. And in the case of your Diva, try enlarging the tiny anti-suction holes around the rim. They are notoriously small.
akiratakamashiakiratakamashi on July 8th, 2013 03:07 pm (UTC)
I have a small Ladycup and I have had the same problem. I have recently worked a way to wiggle the stem, and then I am able to pinch the grips on the bottom of the cup. From there, I wiggle my cup down almost to my entrance and then I put my fingers around the top and pull it out. I know it sounds weird but that usually helps me get it out without too much discomfort.