Log in

No account? Create an account
18 June 2013 @ 11:36 pm
Hello cup experts!

It has been many years since I researched and picked out a new cup, and I'll admit I'm totally overwhelmed by my options. I'm certain that if I spent one week reading the internet I could come to a good conclusion, but I just don't have all that time to devote to it, so I'm hoping you all could help me out.

Today I realized (story behind the cut) that the cup that fits me the best these days is my least favorite to clean, and that it might be time to consider a new one. So, my ideal cup is:

  1. About the same size/shape as my smaller diva cup. Definitely not as wide as the larger lunette. The big lunette feels too big and the small lunette feels too small and the diva feels just right.

  2. As stiff as the largest lunette. I like the way it pops into place so easily. Sometimes I have to fiddle around with the diva to get it to open up.

  3. As easy to clean as the lunette: I like the big holes in the lunettes and I really really do NOT like trying to clean the hollow stem on the diva.

  4. Made in the USA, if that's possible. (Is Canada as close as I can get?)

This morning, I had the delightful experience of fishing my cup out of a poopy toilet. I know I'm not the only one, but it was not pleasant and I wish to avoid it in the future. I just had a cup-boiling party and at roll call I realized that this was my smallest cup - one I'd stopped using a while ago because it kept leaking. (Life has gotten pretty busy lately and no, I probably haven't noticed which cup I grab each month, I just grab one and go. Sometimes it leaks a little and sometimes I remember to wear my lunapanties.)

#4 is the least important to me. My first diva cup got sprayed with some evil anti-soap-scum thing when I visited my parent's house and that made the silicone all gross and sticky circa 2007. I quickly replaced it with the large Lunette to also combat a heavier flow due to a copper IUD that didn't work out in the long run. I loved that it was stiffer than the diva cup because that made it easier to pop open, and I also loved that it was easier to clean. When I got rid of the IUD, the big Lunette started to feel too big, so I tried the smaller lunette, but that one is too small and not as stiff as, though it is not as tricky to get in place as the diva.

The only thing that has sparked my eye so far is that extra-firm meluna, but it turns me off that it's marketed as a "sporty" cup (regardless of the fact that I suppose I am sort of a sporty person? that's quite a tangent though.) I'm also not sure how it compares to the cups I have now in stiffness or in width. I've looked up a couple of measurement and stiffness comparison charts and they don't agree with each other and I don't know which to believe! Unfortunately, the dimensions listed on the meluna website seem to suggest that the M is nearly as small as my too-small Lunette and the L is nearly as large as my too-large Lunette, which doesn't sound appealing. What else is baffling is that by my measurements, the divacup is 42mm wide, the too-small lunette is 40mm, and the too-big lunette is 45mm. This is not exactly what any of the online measurement charts have said, and it is possible that my ruler is just not very good.

So, what do you think is the easiest to clean, most firm cup available in the US that's about 42-43mm wide?

Also, while I'm posting, does anyone know where one might find cheaper lunapanties or any other companies that make something similar? I have a few pairs that I absolutely adore and I would really like some more, but more than $30 for a pair of underpants is a little hard to justify, even if they might be the greatest underpants on earth for one week each month. 
Serpent: suomiserpent_849 on June 19th, 2013 07:47 am (UTC)
just saying that the lunette stiffness is exactly what makes it feels so large. a softer cup of the same width may feel more comfortable.
see the tips here on getting a soft cup to open easily http://menstrual-cups.livejournal.com/2618390.html
recuntulousrecuntulous on June 20th, 2013 12:15 am (UTC)
I started to wonder the exact same thing last night! After all the measuring I sat there for a minute thinking, "really? Just a few millimeters makes that big of a difference?"

Maybe it's too much to ask from a cup. It's not that I can't get the softer cups to open up, it's just so much quicker and easier to do with the large lunette. I fold, put it in, let go, and *zap* it's in the right place! I've tried the cold water trick, but it's not always that convenient. I'll have to look into some of the folds they suggest as well. Thanks for the advice!
juliiie87juliiie87 on June 19th, 2013 10:14 am (UTC)
There are only 2 brands that are made in the USA as far as I understand, beside the Softcup which is VERY different : Sckoon cup, which is on the soft side, & Keeper Mooncup which is firm, see how it compares to your cups here (including capacity,length, width & stiffness if you click on the link to the stiffness comaprison chart near the top of the page) : http://sizecharts.livejournal.com/
As you may know the Divacup is the only brand from Canada.

If you're willing to expand your horizons a little, I can recommend the Naturcup II (medium size) which has a soft base and a firm rim, makes for an easy opening, and the Cuplee or Miacup, which have a similar tappered V shape, but are much softer (however not at all hard to pop open in most community member's experience).

Edited to add : I can also recommend cloth liners as a cheaper alternative to period underwear, I very much love mine!

Edited at 2013-06-19 10:19 am (UTC)
recuntulousrecuntulous on June 20th, 2013 04:34 am (UTC)
Thanks a bunch!

Based on more thoughts about stiffness, I suspect that the ideal compromise might be something a similar size as the diva or slightly smaller that is also stiffer.

I'm really liking the looks of the Naturcup! It's rated as squishier than the Diva, but maybe that's taking into account the whole cup and not the popping-ability of the rim? Also, I used to live in Spain, so it's almost like a cup made at home, right?

The Miacup also looks pretty great, though like it might be softer? Either way, thanks for the suggestions, I have a lot to consider now!

Also - on the pads, I also use cloth liners, but there's just something about them being a part of the underwear that I prefer, I always go for the lunapanties first. BUT. I'm certain I could just sew a thin liner into a pair of underwear! Why didn't I think of that sooner? I'll have to experiment soon.
juliiie87juliiie87 on June 20th, 2013 08:01 am (UTC)
Oh yeah, DIY is the way to go!

I think the Naturcup is rated this way because the bottom third is very squishy, but my friend who bought one was surprised how firm the rim was. I also forgot to mention the large Yuuki which comes in soft & firm, but as you can see from the charts it's closer to the lunette. I do believe that sluightly softer cup is more comfortable than a firm wide one, even if they're the exact same size. For example, the large Meluna classic felt bulky to me but the large Cuplee is very confortable.

I found those that aren't very expensive at all... I think it's an indian brand, they have a website too : http://luxurymoon.co.uk/index.php?main_page=index&manufacturers_id=22&zenid=rs7u1h89ubk4k45vavqa4f7gh1

Edited at 2013-06-20 08:04 am (UTC)
nocebo_domingonocebo_domingo on June 21st, 2013 10:24 pm (UTC)
The Miacup is softer than the Diva, but I find the Mia much easier to pop open. Maybe because of the large holes, maybe the shape, maybe because it the material is thicker. It's a great cup.
Kai: 2Cupskuradi8 on June 19th, 2013 06:31 pm (UTC)
How about a Natural Mamma? http://www.ebay.com/itm/190650713809
Compare its dimensions at the size charts and follow the links to Melissa's side-by-side photos to compare its shape.