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Hey everyone,

I thought this community might be the best place to ask my question as many of you are so knowledgeable about menstrual cups! I've been a divacup user for years and have been fairly satisfied with it but I've been having major leaks this "cycle" --more like random bleeding that's been going on for 2 weeks now...it's happened before (6 months straight of bleeding (!!) but all doc's I've seen say that it's not a problem (?!?!).

I've tried turning the cup inside out, making sure my cervix was inside the cup, putting it lower, etc and I still I'm getting bright red leaks every time even though there's hardly anything in the cup. I've had the same results with my spare (barely used) divacup too.

Also, I notice that despite being able to hold 30ml, my cup always overflows at 15ml and most people overflow at 25ml where the air holes are. Do you think I need shorter cup to be able to hold to full capacity? Even if I've never had a problem with the stem length?

Another major problem I have is getting the cup to create suction when I'm standing. I sit at home and it's a piece of cake, but stand in public restrooms. After all these years, It's still a hit or miss on whether or not I can get the cup to open up with air and create a seal while standing. I need to be able to not worry and get it 100% of the time.

Because of all of this I'm looking for a new cup. Any suggestions on a menstrual cup that is less prone to leaking, will overflow only when truly full instead of half-full, and is easier to create a seal when inserted standing??

Thank you, thank you, THANK YOU for your help!!

PS: I'm 24, married, and no pregnancies
 
juliiie87juliiie87 on June 4th, 2013 12:38 pm (UTC)
As with everyone else, it seems the magic answer to cup issues is a large Fleurcup. Last I checked fleurcup.com they were one sale, so there's that. It shouldn't be firmer than a Diva, but the flared rim helps some with popping open, and if you get a small+large sale combo, the small one is even firmer and pops open even stronger.

As to why you leak and overflow : leakage with bafrely anything inside the cup indicates a placement issue, perhaps your cervix is hiding in a corner ? overflow, however happens most likely because your cervix is sitting inside the cup, as it should and therefore taking some capacity. That's mostly why the large Fleurcup would be the answer : round bell shaped instead of the Diva's tappered V means more capacity where your cervix isn't, near the bottom, and a larger diameter means more capacity overall. There are other cup with this kind of shape and size, mainly thinking of the XL Meluna, but I'm not sure that would help with the unfolding issue. However, your cervix is the way it is (in your case sounds like it's dangly), and that won't change. As to public bathrooms : would you consider carrying disinfecting wipes or fluid while on your period, or simply making a seat protection out of TP ? I sometimes do that when I need to sit down in public bathrooms.
quietchords on June 4th, 2013 04:02 pm (UTC)
Thank you for taking the time to reply! Thanks as well for the recommendation. I will look into the fleurcup. It seems like it might be a good fit.

I wouldn't say I have an unfolding issue,I always get it to open up, it's more having the cup inflate so that it can create a seal. It's much less of an issue if I insert the cup sitting down (I suppose my muscles are more relaxed) then if I put it in standing where the sides stay squished together.

When I have to I do put toilet paper, but some bathrooms are just so gross that I would much rather remain standing. Maybe I would feel better if I disinfected the toilet seat in some instances and I think I'll start carrying them around.

ETA: I've been looking at the sckoon cup. It also has a bell shape. Do you have any opinions on that cup vs the fleurcup? Because it's so new, there aren't many reviews

Edited at 2013-06-04 06:57 pm (UTC)
juliiie87juliiie87 on June 4th, 2013 07:29 pm (UTC)
The few reviews I've read indicate it's probably softer than the Diva or the Fleurcup even, so the issue you're mentionning would probably happen with it too (btw I don't quite see why you insist it's not an unfolding problem, since basically all cups need to be is unfolded and open all the way, perhaps it's just a wording issue?).

Another thing I've thought about is you may want to explore alternative folds, and ways of facing the folded cup : most people use the punch-down because it's in the instructions and looks less intimidating than a c-fold, but I think it's one of the folds that like to stay squished together the most. My fav' is the half diamond ; triangle, labia and origami work well for many people too. There's some videos on youtube if you don't know these yet.

Edited at 2013-06-04 07:36 pm (UTC)
quietchords on June 4th, 2013 08:23 pm (UTC)
lol I think it is a wording problem, no biggie though! In my mind unfolding related to the fold (like c-fold) becoming undone after insertion not inflation of the cup since to me the cup could unfold but not inflate. But I see how both issues can be one of the same.

I read in one of the posts here that the fleurcup might not be 100% silicone because during the "Flame test" it melted, if that were the case I would prefer another type of cup. I think I might go for the sckoon or meluna xl and experiment with different folds.

Thanks again for pointing me in the right direction.

Edited at 2013-06-04 08:52 pm (UTC)
quietchords on June 4th, 2013 09:45 pm (UTC)
So, I just bought the Meluna classic XL. I'm pretty happy with my purchase and will update after I've used it a couple of times. It's not made out of silicone, but my problem was especially with the (potential) false advertising. Just in case then, I went with Meluna. It seems like an excellent cup too.
trejoytrejoy on June 5th, 2013 01:16 am (UTC)
I prefer the large Sckoon cup because it is narrower in body and rim than Fleur and the shape put less pressure on my bladder (perhaps because the Sckoon rim is less pronounced).
quietchords on June 5th, 2013 01:32 pm (UTC)
Thanks for your input! I haven't experienced any problems with the divacup putting pressure on my bladder, so I'll just have to see with the meluna xl.

In general, how do you think the Sckoon compares to the Fleur? Does the Sckoon hold most of it's capacity on the bottom like the fleur? Is one softer than the other? Is the sckoon easier to insert and pop open than the fleur? Thanks soooo much for your help!!
trejoytrejoy on June 5th, 2013 01:58 pm (UTC)
I didn't keep the large Fleur long because it was not comfortable for me. I think the Sckoon is more flexible than the Fleur, at least it felt squishier in side-by-side comparison. The Sckoon cup doesn't 'stick to itself' the way the soft MeLuna did (I used the old large soft MeLuna for two years) and as long as I make sure I have one of the holes in the folded section, it opens easily. My first few tries with the Sckoon I just inserted and let it 'travel' on it's own. It didn't leak. The Fleur, being slightly firmer, opened more quickly. I was nicely surprised by the Sckoon's capacity after being initially skeptical of the unique hole slant but, being the higher capacity cup, the Fleur will hold more flow especially if your cervix takes up space in your cup.
quietchords on June 5th, 2013 02:12 pm (UTC)
THANK YOU! for the reply. It was very helpful to see a comparison of the 2.
Kai: BugsBunnykuradi8 on June 4th, 2013 02:54 pm (UTC)
Standing in public rest rooms?
http://www.funnyfunpages.com/stance.htm
If everyone would just sit down, no one would piss all over the seats in the first place.

I agree with juliiie87. Since standing isn't working out for you in terms of cup placement, carry some wipes so you can sit down.
quietchords on June 4th, 2013 04:12 pm (UTC)
LMAO!! I loved reading the explanation of what women have to go through to pee. It's funny you mention that if we all sat down, we wouldn't pee all over the seats, which is so true. My husband was shocked when he found out that women squat to pee and pee all over the toilet seat. He was like "If you're going to squat...why don't you then just lift the toilet seat?" lol. Never thought of that, but it would avoid peeing all over the seat. Isn't that the reason why guys lift the seat in the first place? Maybe we should too.

As I stated in my comment above, I do sit down when I have to, but some bathrooms are just nasty and even with disinfecting wipes I wouldn't want to touch anything (why oh why are starbucks bathrooms so gross??). In those instances it would be nice to change my cup standing.
Kai: BugsBunnykuradi8 on June 4th, 2013 09:02 pm (UTC)
Try Dunkin Donuts instead. Their coffee is infinitely better too. ;oP
quietchords on June 4th, 2013 09:40 pm (UTC)
Good ol' Dunkin! You can never go wrong with the basics.
Kathlynekathlyne on June 4th, 2013 11:12 pm (UTC)
My thoughts exactly. Half the time I wipe the seat to clean off the flush spray or pee that some woman left on the seat then pranced out of the stall acting like it couldn't possibly have been her. Then I sit down on the seat. You can't properly empty your bladder if you are hovering, and the chances of you "catching" anything from a toilet seat are slim to none. And please, if you insist on hovering, please clean up the pee you just put all over the seat! (Can you tell this is one of my pet peeves?)

And to the OP: it does sound like some of your leakage is actually that the cup is just not catching anything. Your cervix could be off to once side or the other and the cup is opening to the side of your cervix instead of around it. Try to find your cervix and make sure the cup is around it by sweeping/stirring around the cup with your finger and making sure you can't feel the end of your cervix. Once I figured this out I had a lot fewer problems.
quietchords on June 5th, 2013 01:40 pm (UTC)
Hi Kathlyne,

I completely agree with you...who likes to walk in and see urine all over the seat????

Things are tight once the divacup is in, but I have tried sweeping around the cup to make sure my cervix was inside. As far as I could tell, it was. I don't think my cervix sits in the middle of the cup though based on it's position. I think it's near the top part of the rim. Do you think the cup can sometimes moves out of place, exposing the cervix and causing leaking? Creating a seal is supposed to prevent that though right? Sometimes there's hardly anything in the cup and other times there's 1/4 oz.