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30 May 2013 @ 02:01 pm
This is my first post here. I am 15, a virgin and have a small Ladycup. My hymen isn't a problem because I broke it several years ago during sports. I was a competitive gymnast for many years, and so my PCs are extremely strong and my vagina is tight.

I got the cup about three weeks ago right after my last period ended, so I did some dry runs. These weren't very successful so I waited until my period which started last night. It was surprisingly easy to get in. I used the punch down fold, put I halfway in, let go, it popped open, then slid up into place. I wasn't expecting it to actually go in, so I panicked and tried to get it out, but after being unsuccessful and realizing that I actually couldn't feel the cup and it was not painful as I was expecting, I left it there and relaxed.

The next several times I tried to get it out both last night and this morning I experienced severe pain right before the cup rim comes out. What I have been doing is pulling on the stem till I can reach the bottom of the cup, then pinching the bottom and easing I out while wiggling in circular motions. When the rim is almost out i tip the cup to let one side come out first, but it becomes extremely painful and I have to let the cup go back up.

Suction is definitely breaking, so that isn't the issue. I think the problem had to do with a tough ring of tissue just on the inside of my vagina. If I stick a finger about half an inch in then bend the finger, I can pull down on the ridge of tissue. During one of the dry runs when I tried the C fold, I could get the cup in, but only after shoving it past this barrier. When I removed the C fold only slightly opened, I experience a similar pain as I am feeling now, just not as bad. I have tried refolding the cup, but I can't get even one finger in far enough while the cup is there, and if I push in on the side, it is painful like I am pushing on myself. This is probably my cervix. It may be a bit inside the cup, meaning when I push on the cup or even try to get a finger past the rim I am pushing on the cervix.

Has anyone else experienced this? Does anyone know what that tough ring of tissue is? Does this have anything to do with my strong PCs?

I really want this cup to work, it is comfortable (except for the stem being a bit long)and I haven't had a single leak in the last 14 hours. Right now I just really want to get the cup out, but I am also afraid I will be too scared to put it back in again.
Kai: 2Cupskuradi8 on May 30th, 2013 09:19 pm (UTC)
Yes, those are your PCs. It sounds like you're "accidentally" clenching them. To isolate them, next time you go pee, start and stop your stream a few times. Then insert your finger and give it a little squeeze. Now that you know how to contract them on command, practice RELAXING them on command. You'll need to do that for insertion and especially removal. Open your mouth a little and keep your jaw slack -- and don't forget to breathe! :o)

A spoon is often a good tool to help get a cup out. Then practice relaxing before you use your cup again.
lovekittens9 on May 30th, 2013 09:35 pm (UTC)
I have squeezed and relaxed them, but even when they are relaxed, there is nowhere near enough room for the cup rim. I will try the spoon. I will also try in the shower tonight.
Kai: 2Cupskuradi8 on May 30th, 2013 09:37 pm (UTC)
Squeeze the cup and rock it out at an angle so it's not "the whole rim" at once.
teacupcake89 on May 30th, 2013 09:46 pm (UTC)
have a look at this video to see how to remove the cup one corner/bit at a time: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qLPBZz3uJEg removal tips from 4 minutes in, the one corner at a time from 6minutes in.

This post lists some users’ own removal techniques in the comments and might be worth a good read: http://menstrual-cups.livejournal.com/2901135.html#comments :)
tjs77tsa on May 30th, 2013 10:27 pm (UTC)
Once you can reach the bottom to squeeze it use your other hand to hold the stem so it can't go back up and move your finger where you are squeezing up a little bit at a time as you pull it down this way the rim will be kinda flattened and you might even be able to fold it when you get it far enough down.
juliiie87juliiie87 on May 30th, 2013 11:05 pm (UTC)
Sounds like it could be your hymen... or your muscles. depends if it's strong and muscle-y or more fleshy. Remember to bear down. Pretend you're pooping the cup. For, me that also helps keep the way loose and open. Once the tappered bottom of the cup is on its way out, add in the tip of your thumb (before the knuckle part) to pinch it into a c-fold. It might be messy but it'll make it smaller. You might also want to use your second hand to hold onto the stem outside of your body while you do so.

Edited at 2013-05-30 11:17 pm (UTC)
lovekittens9 on May 31st, 2013 03:32 am (UTC)
I got it out! Yay. It was simply a case of tipping it the other way as the rim came out. Also being in the shower helped a lot as well.

It definitely seems like my PC muscles were the problem. Mabey one side was just a bit thicker. I thought they were supposed to be higher up. Now I just have to work up the courage to put it in again. I think I will wait till tomorrow morning so my poor vagina can have a rest. Today, even with all the stress and stem irritation (I will be trimming it a little), has showed me how wonderful cups are. Thanks guys for all your support.
adastra_flexineadastra_flexine on May 31st, 2013 10:49 pm (UTC)
Maybe something smaller?
I have been browsing for a couple months now and studying the size chart: http://menstrual-cups.livejournal.com/1285963.html. I wonder if maybe a less wide cup than the one you have now might help? I have about to buy a cup myself so hopefully someone with experience can chime in :)

Good luck!
xo adAstra